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Title: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: jeffjeff on March 15, 2008, 02:03:23 AM
Has anyone recently purchased one of the newer model Tornado tables such as a Storm, or Cyclone? I purchased a Storm a couple months ago and have been disappointed with the overall quality of the unit. It came with rods with misaligned holes so that when the men were installed, they were not flush across the rod. The legs of the unit do not stand vertical, rather they point inward/outward when fully assembled. The playing surface could not be leveled. If you place a ball on either end, it would always roll into the goal. When trying to level the table, my level stated the table needed to be raised 1/4 inch on both sides. The floor is level, so the playing surface must be bowed. Has anyone come across any tables like these which seem to be of just poor quality? After playing on a Tornado Cyclone II at my job each day, I was highly disappointed with the quality of this Storm model. Is it me, or does this new Storm table seem smaller in width/length than the Cyclone II? Long story short, the manufacturer opted to send me a replacement table. I'm paying the difference to upgrade to the new Cyclone table. Any thoughts or ideas on this model?
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: EDGEER on March 15, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
It's tuff but the lower priced Tables by all manufactures are not made very well.  It is becoming that coin-op quality is only available in higher end tables.  Lets us know how this works out for you.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: chance37 on March 15, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
save your money and get a coin op...i had a cyclone II model that was blonde side and it actually played great but i broke the pan i the goal and couldnt access it to fix it so I upgraded to the tournament table...love it.....
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: FoosFan on March 15, 2008, 03:01:38 PM
I recently bought a new Cyclone and have been very happy with it.  I like the ball returns on both sides compared with the single return on the Cyclone II.  No problems with the playing surface.  However, the ball sometimes comes back out of the goal after a score.  Also, the ball sometimes stays in the pan or gets stuck near the end of the tube so you have to reach in and spin it out.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: chance37 on March 15, 2008, 03:06:38 PM
a new 2008 cyclone....???  I dont like the double return it sucks if your practicing...IMO.....As far as it getting stuck ion the tube what tube are you talking about tube...i dont thing the Cyclone has a tube does it????If you break the pan how do you rep[lace it...My 2nd and 3rd screw fell out and it was impossible to reach them without taking the cabinet apart...the tournament table is split cabinet....makes it easy....
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: jeffjeff on March 15, 2008, 03:44:52 PM
Foosfan,

I'm assuming your table was put together well since you stated you were happy with it. Did you put it together or was it installed from the dealer/company it was purchased from? I'm waiting for my Cyclone to arrive within a week or so and I sure hope that it does not have rod quality issues or any other problems. Is there anything wrong with your Cyclone? Just out of curiosity, I measured the Cyclone II at my job earlier today for width as it seems to be wider than the new Storm. It was wider by an inch give or take, 30" compared to 29" for the Storm. I'm hoping the new Cyclone will be 30" in width as well.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: FoosFan on March 15, 2008, 08:45:38 PM
I dont like the double return it sucks if your practicing...IMO.....As far as it getting stuck ion the tube what tube are you talking about tube...i dont thing the Cyclone has a tube does it????If you break the pan how do you rep[lace it

What are you practicing, shooting into your own goal? ;)  I like the double return because I can practice on both sides and the the table will wear more evenly.

Here's a pic of the undercarriage:
(http://tkfiles.storage.live.com/y1pi0pXlQP0EyeFBaHsNrlFgcM3F2Pe_AVm6SFLofHR_pTERl_0UFKADKd9UuriLoSCl1clU551duc)

Did you put it together or was it installed from the dealer/company it was purchased from?  Is there anything wrong with your Cyclone?

I ordered through Steepleton's (http://www.steepleton.com/) and they delivered, assembled, and set it up for me.  All I had to do when I got home was lubricate the rods and I was ready to go.  Other than the goal/ball return issues, the only negative is that a screw came out of the pan.  It's now replaced and taped over with duct tape to make sure it doesn't fall out again.  The Cyclone's rods are almost 25% thicker than the Storm's and that is specifically why I picked it over the Storm.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: chance37 on March 17, 2008, 10:28:15 AM
wow they really have changed the construction of the new cyclone i had the cyclone II the cyclone II ball return was like the 2000 tables, witht the ramp system.....tubes now i see.....gotta love the chinese.....
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: chance37 on March 17, 2008, 10:29:43 AM
Also are the corners held together by that black corner joint? or are the end and side panels actually connected together? and is there a metal drop pan above the black box?  if so does that new ball return system affect the sound of a goal? 
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: FoosFan on March 17, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
The corners are held together mainly by the horizontal MDF piece you see in the photo.  The black corner piece probably adds some reinforcement, but it's mostly there to give a showy, rounded corner on the outside.  There is a metal drop pan above the black box.  Goals scored sound much like a Cyclone II, F5, or tournament table.  They're different but you know they're from the same family.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: SuaN on March 18, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
I recently purchased a storm II as well.. i am really dissapointed with it as well.. the rods are so different.. the whole feel of playing on the table is so different.. yes.. the leg leveller cant seem to level the table perfectly.. other than that its allrite.. i juz find the rods and leg levellers a mess.. thats all... and the whole feeling of playing on it is so different compared to a t2000.. i made a wrong choice.. shud have just gotten a used coin op..
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: EDGEER on March 18, 2008, 09:41:25 AM
wow they really have changed the construction of the new cyclone i had the cyclone II the cyclone II ball return was like the 2000 tables, witht the ramp system.....tubes now i see.....gotta love the chinese.....

Thats Mexican's Chance.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: chance37 on March 18, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
GOTTA LOVE THE MEXICANS :D
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: bbtuna on March 18, 2008, 09:53:05 AM
since i have been posting on here, we have had a dozen threads or more on what table to buy...every time everyone says save your money and buy a coin op...this isn't meant as an "I told you so" it is just an example of why we all say coin-op...most of us have either made the same mistake or played enough on the mistakes to know

I always try and tell people to slow down in their purchase because people get emotional and end up buying too soon rather than taking their time and listening to the advice of those who have already learned (most of us the hard way)

it is the way we all are i guess...

recommendation now is, take care of the table, save your money, and when you are ready, sell it and buy a new one...the right one...unless of course if money isn't an object in which case dump the one you have ASAP and buy yourself the right one right away
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: georgefoos on March 18, 2008, 10:04:44 AM
Hi, I just got a used Tornado Tournament 2000 Foosball Table Coin-Op made in 2002 and it's like new for about $1000, it's a good deal?
I post the images on the website:
check it out
http://foosball.vb1.org/

let me know, thanks.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: EDGEER on March 18, 2008, 12:22:54 PM
Nice buy.  Looks from the handles that it was barely used. 
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: georgefoos on March 18, 2008, 10:38:58 PM
Thanks, I really enjoyed playing the Tornado t2000 coin-up, felt like a Pro.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: jeffjeff on March 25, 2008, 06:44:51 PM
I received my replacement table from Valley Dynamo yesterday via freight. It is the new Cyclone and that table is very, very heavy. I managed to get it on my truck and manuever it into the basement alone but it did take some time. Anyway, this table is much better than the Storm it replaced. The playing field was level out of the box and even after attaching the legs unlike the Storm I had prior. I managed to put it together solo for the most part except for my wife who helped me flip it over after attaching the legs. There is an obvious difference in table dimension when comparing it to the Storm. The Cyclone is a wider table which is clearly evident when looking at the playing field. This time the only thing wrong with it were 3 rods, the (2) 5 men and (1) 3-man non-goalie rod. The holes were not drilled flush across the rods which results in the men being out of alignment when pinned to the rods. Other than this and a silicone spill from the bottle which was not securely tightend, all is well with this table. Something told me to buy the Cyclone in the first place because the difference in the feel and quality compared to the Storm model is very evident. Thanks to everyone for all the advice that was shared on this topic.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: georgefoos on March 25, 2008, 09:54:15 PM
You will enjoying them. the ball control are great.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: redterror on March 28, 2008, 07:52:07 AM
hellava deal!  good hunting!  where u get it from?
Hi, I just got a used Tornado Tournament 2000 Foosball Table Coin-Op made in 2002 and it's like new for about $1000, it's a good deal?
I post the images on the website:
check it out
http://foosball.vb1.org/

let me know, thanks.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: georgefoos on March 28, 2008, 12:21:23 PM
I got them at the Brady
http://www.bradydist.com/index.php
pick them up local so no shipping.
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: bbtuna on March 28, 2008, 02:32:46 PM
you should always ask the question before you buy...you paid top dollar for the table but you still got a good table and you will never regret buying it unless you happen to see one for less...but your personal satisfaction and pride will be well served

great pictures by the way...

CONGRATULATIONS and enjoy
Title: Re: New model Storm/Cyclone Tornado Tables
Post by: georgefoos on March 28, 2008, 03:10:23 PM
You are right, like new, no need for repair or replacement parts. Just have fun and enjoy. with me using at home with my kids, it will never needed for any repair or replacement parts worries. I think it worth more than $200. Don't you agree. ;)