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tell me what you think
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I honestly think that with any kind of ball control that he time limit is perfectly fine where it stands. If you can play, you can set a shot and shoot it (with plenty of time to watch the defense) with the current rule on time limit. I honestly think the pull takes just as long to set up as the snake. It also has just as many variables to consider while setting and shooting. This question is ludicrous.
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You are GOOFY.
The 70's are gone. The day of holding the ball on the three rod for 30 seconds is past, because that is what you're proposing. You take 10 seconds to set a ball then you want another 15 to shoot? Why does the forward get to have more time than anyone else on the table.
Tell you what. You can have your extra time. BUT, in the set phase, you have to announce to the goalie you are doing so and are not allowed to shoot until you announce that you have the ball set like you want it. Also, in the set phase, the goalie is allowed to take his hands off the rods and relax until you have announced you are ready and then the goalie gets that same allotted time you want to set the ball to grab the handles. Once he has grabbed the handles, you then have to ask the goalie if he is ready. Now you can shoot.
So go ahead, take your extra time, but that is what you have to give up. You sound like all those crybabies on a no rollover agenda. My fingers are rubbing together playing the world's smallest violin.
And oh yeah, your GOOFY.
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Starting the New Year off a little bitter huh, Iceman. :D
Got your bags packed for Nantes?
Have fun.
AC
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What's up coach?
No, I figured an off the wall question and request deserved an off the wall answer.
I'm still packing and getting everything together including my Bonzini handles ;D. Can't wait to get there and meet more new players and countries that have jumped into the fray. And of course, take more pictures.
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I'm still packing and getting everything together including my Bonzini handles ;D. Can't wait to get there and meet more new players and countries that have jumped into the fray. And of course, take more pictures.
Good luck, Ice!
Bonne Année et rossent un certain derriere international ! !
Wonder what you tell the inspectors at De Gaulle (or Orly?) those funny looking hard Bonzini "condoms" are for? ;) :P Say hi to Mark Winker, and Mickey Suwaidi, if he shows, from Hawaiian Flyin' Brian.
Perhaps you can start a rumor that Tornado's going to a 4player goal bar! And switching to miniature hockey pucks with flashing LED's, instead of balls!! 8) :o :( :-X :-\
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watch Horton set up a pull...that is the way it should be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4sddjyPAW4
if anything, the time of possesion should be shortened to 10 or 12 seconds...I think I would make it 10 all rods
speed the game up...vast majority of people, any kind of shooter (talking fairly advanced players) shoot within 10 seconds probaly 90% plus of the time
always individual style players use a lot of rod time but generally within the game, people shoot within 10 seconds of their possesion...10 is plenty of time on the 5 unless you are Steve Murry or Jeep but then they are a couple of the exceptions I was talking about
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You are GOOFY.
The 70's are gone. The day of holding the ball on the three rod for 30 seconds is past, because that is what you're proposing. You take 10 seconds to set a ball then you want another 15 to shoot? Why does the forward get to have more time than anyone else on the table.
Tell you what. You can have your extra time. BUT, in the set phase, you have to announce to the goalie you are doing so and are not allowed to shoot until you announce that you have the ball set like you want it. Also, in the set phase, the goalie is allowed to take his hands off the rods and relax until you have announced you are ready and then the goalie gets that same allotted time you want to set the ball to grab the handles. Once he has grabbed the handles, you then have to ask the goalie if he is ready. Now you can shoot.
So go ahead, take your extra time, but that is what you have to give up. You sound like all those crybabies on a no rollover agenda. My fingers are rubbing together playing the world's smallest violin.
And oh yeah, your GOOFY.
Yeah your right the 70's are over, the days that the 1st rule that everybody learned was not to SPIN the rods!!! GOOFY is the snake shot!!! All you guys keep on spinning, the best players in the world shoot a pull, Horten, Loffredo!!! Not crying just thought I'd throw my 1st ? out there whew........
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watch Horton set up a pull...that is the way it should be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4sddjyPAW4
if anything, the time of possesion should be shortened to 10 or 12 seconds...I think I would make it 10 all rods
speed the game up...vast majority of people, any kind of shooter (talking fairly advanced players) shoot within 10 seconds probaly 90% plus of the time
always individual style players use a lot of rod time but generally within the game, people shoot within 10 seconds of their possesion...10 is plenty of time on the 5 unless you are Steve Murry or Jeep but then they are a couple of the exceptions I was talking about
CORRECT!!
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tell me what you think
10 or 15 seconds is plenty of time. I do think a max of 15 seconds and 10 seconds once the ball is set is right.
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I honestly think that with any kind of ball control that he time limit is perfectly fine where it stands. If you can play, you can set a shot and shoot it (with plenty of time to watch the defense) with the current rule on time limit. I honestly think the pull takes just as long to set up as the snake. It also has just as many variables to consider while setting and shooting. This question is ludicrous.
I think you shoot the snake and that was my 1st ? so ease up. But either you dont have any kind of ball control or you know it takes longer to set the pull.
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Todd yes, Johnny no. Horton is no longer one of the best players in the world. His results in recent tourneys prove it.
Sorry to say because it is one of the best shots ever on a foosball table but the pull is slowly becoming a dying art. Trust me, I play in the land of some of the nastiest pulls ever seen. Texas, aka pull country.
All of the best players now are roller shooters. The best pull shooters out there are 35 to 40 years old.5 years from now? There are only two good pull shooters in Europe, but only one uses it as his main shot. Billy can shoot one but he prefers the roller.
And it was as I thought, did I call it or what. Another no roller agenda. Get over it, it's legal so deal with it. I would rather block a roller than a pull any day. Learn to block it then it won't be an issue with you. 100 percent of the people that don't like the shot have trouble blocking the shot. Those that can block it have no problem with it.
With that said, I'm not beating this dead horse anymore. I gotta finish packing for France. If I can get some uploaded I will post a couple of pics while I'm there.
Peace out peeps, Ice out.
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Spray,
you have no idea of how out of touch you sound when you come on a board with current players and start talking about the rollover as a spin
the discussion is now pushing 20 years and you sound like a total novice to try the sarcastic condesending approach - you act like you are the master and we are the students
if you are just coming back to the game then you are the student, I don't care how good you once were (ask Simon, Rick Martin, Horton, Todd, Gummy)
if you have been in the game for some time and you are still doing this you are a stupid flamer who needs to seek professional help for your personal issues
if you are just coming back, take some time to see how the game has changed, mental, physical, table etc before you start flooding us all with all you know
you want to harken back to the past do this as much as possible quietly in the privacy of your own mind
show wisdom - watch, listen, ask and work at your own game and after a couple of years then see how you feel
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Spray,
you have no idea of how out of touch you sound when you come on a board with current players and start talking about the rollover as a spin
the discussion is now pushing 20 years and you sound like a total novice to try the sarcastic condesending approach - you act like you are the master and we are the students
if you are just coming back to the game then you are the student, I don't care how good you once were (ask Simon, Rick Martin, Horton, Todd, Gummy)
if you have been in the game for some time and you are still doing this you are a stupid flamer who needs to seek professional help for your personal issues
if you are just coming back, take some time to see how the game has changed, mental, physical, table etc before you start flooding us all with all you know
you want to harken back to the past do this as much as possible quietly in the privacy of your own mind
show wisdom - watch, listen, ask and work at your own game and after a couple of years then see how you feel
OK!? All I did is ask a question and all sarcastic replies got sarcastic replies from me, but I will take your advise because even though it started sarcastic it ended sincere. Thanks
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best 3 bars in the world are (in no particular order)
Fredrico - EuroPin (Fred playing forward and Todd in goal have won 8 out of the last 11 years - the only other wins came from Pulls)
Billy Pappas - Snake*
Tony Spredman - Snake
Ryan Moore (up and coming) - Snake*
Terry Moore - Snake*
Rob Atha - Snake*
Trevor Park - Snake*
Robert Mares - Snake*
FreTommy Adkinson - snake and pull*
nando Rosa - snake and pull
Todd L - Pull*
Gummy - pull (I am adding him since he and Tracy won 2 out of last 3 worlds)
Tracy McMillen - pull*
probably a few other European players 3 bars to include but they would all be Europins
* just a side note, not sure what it says, but those people with stars by their names are also the best 2 bar offenses in the game today - Fred passes 2 to 5 in singles 99% of the time and Tony is not far behind him
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nothing wrong with your first question on time, I didn't think it deserved the back lash, but you got a strong response from this statement
the days that the 1st rule that everybody learned was not to SPIN the rods!!! GOOFY is the snake shot!!! All you guys keep on spinning, the best players in the world shoot a pull, Horten, Loffredo!!!
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Dead spots are completley natural on all foosball tables.
The spacing between each of the rods is just far enough apart to keep your rod and the oppositions rod at a distance so that the ball (while on the playing surface) will not become pinched between the 2 during play.
AC
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I honestly think that with any kind of ball control that he time limit is perfectly fine where it stands. If you can play, you can set a shot and shoot it (with plenty of time to watch the defense) with the current rule on time limit. I honestly think the pull takes just as long to set up as the snake. It also has just as many variables to consider while setting and shooting. This question is ludicrous.
I think you shoot the snake and that was my 1st ? so ease up. But either you dont have any kind of ball control or you know it takes longer to set the pull.
I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. I was just stating that I felt the question was really out of the realm of reality. Imagine adding 10-15 seconds per shot. Now realize that the tournaments are already running well over their "time limits". If you add 10 seconds to every shot then you really would be slowing things down even more, and right now people are trying to figure out ways to speed up the tournament scene to run more efficiently (at least I've read a lot of concerned posts about this topic).
You're right, I don't have the best ball control, however, I can set a pull and snake both with relative ease. As far as what shot I shoot... I shoot a little bit of everything, I like playing in the net so I don't really practice as much forward as I should. You're right though, I'm leaning towards shooting a snake, to keep my wrist in good shape for blasting invisible pull shots from the 2 bar.
So, in that regard... sorry if I came off as being harsh, sarcastic, or even rude. It's just kind of how I express myself, that's one of the problems with message boards... the expression I would make while saying that would tell you that I wasn't trying to completely dismiss your idea. Just stating that I thought it wasn't very viable.
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alan,
did you mean that for this thread?
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No, I missed the mark by one topic.
Thanks Charles ::)
Later
AC