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Does anyone know what configuration they are using on the Goalie rod?
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Just got back from the venue and they are having a meeting as I type. Don't know if they will be discussing the one man goalie or not. They all have the one goalie here for sure.
Foos pics soon to come.
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Thanks Ice
I was told there was a decision but they didn't know what it was. Give use an update when you can.
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WHERES THE UPDATE ???
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looking more and more like the one man goalie. but not final yet.
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I learned on a one goalie system, and it was fun. Learned on the Deutschemeister, and then played on some Leihmacher and a bit of P4P in its early stages. I can't agree with what ITSF is doing because Tornado is so dominant in its current format here. It would be like telling all of the Bonzini players, "hey, I know you like what you like.... BUT you have to completely revamp your table." I can't approve even though I'm a novice.
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The USA vs UAE world cup qualifier match that us underway NOW is on a 1-goalie Tornado table :(
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visit www.netfoos.tv to watch the event this weekend...
Daniel posted a schedule of some of this weekends events here
http://www.foosball.com/forum/index.php?topic=2356.0
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Oh please someone tell me that Farid is no longer the ITSF President. Did he replace teh Executive Committee like he threaten after they originally would not support his 1-man goalie mandate?
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First of all:
Congratulations USA!
Well, the discussion is not going to be any easier now, I guess. How do you want to explain that you can't play on 1-man-goalie-tables when you've just become the WORLD CHAMPION? ;)
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Yeah baby! Way to go team USA! Solid play by Spree and Moore. I watched it on a chopped up live-streaming link. I hope that the next time more care and effort will be made so that it can be viewed fully. If this sport is to grow it should be made more available for viewing. Here we had the World Championships and you had to wait an hour between matches due to there was only one or two tables with a camera. Meanwhile other matches were ongoing on the different types of tables. I am not criticizing the efforts of those who did bring us the live stream as I think they did all they could while operating around the edges of the venue's media plan. I just think that the computer age should be embraced more fully and live streaming given a more prominent value in sharing an event that is really something to witness. Hopefully in the future we might see every table having a camera and the viewer having the ability to choose which matches they want to watch. Just my two cents,,,
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it isn't can the best players in the world make adjustments and find a game with a one man goalie
it is if they should have to and it is about timing
don't lose sight of the real issue just because WE WON THE WHOLE FRIGGIN THING even after they CHEATED and changed our home table at the last minute
way to go TEAM USA!!!!
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If this sport is to grow it should be made more available for viewing.
It was on TV in Europe.
it isn't can the best players in the world make adjustments and find a game with a one man goalie
it is if they should have to and it is about timing
No, they shouldn't have to, and the timing was a piece of impudence.
don't lose sight of the real issue just because WE WON THE WHOLE FRIGGIN THING even after they CHEATED and changed our home table at the last minute
Can't you stop this conspiracy talk now that the US team has won? I don't mean you personally, Tuna, but there have been so many paranoid comments about the table change that it starts getting annoying. They were showing this on television in Europe, hoping to reach a big audience. As I pointed out, the guys in charge must have been thinking they couldn't show people Table Soccer with 3 goalies. If you think that's stupid, I'm with you. But it doesn't have anything to do with cheating or anti-Americanism.
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Foosball in the US has always had change, it's about being a capitalist society. If you don't keep up with the latest you get left behind. So you buy it and they make money. If that wasn't true then my brown marble would still be THE Table. I wonder how Tornado players would deal with a drastic change like when TS went from blue tops to brown tops. Guess what? The players dealt with it and kept right on playing and it seemed the best players were still the best. Our US team showed us just how true that is. While Europe had wonderfully talented players we were able to show them two completely different styles of foos(Spree and Moore) yet completely dominating in both styles. I think the diversity of styles enjoyed in this country says alot about how we adapt and can adapt and will keep on playing regardless of these minor changes. I sure was proud of our team, just TOO COOL!
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Anyone know how Gummy and T-Mac did?
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In the World Cup, they didn't play past the quarterfinals against France (winning their match)... With the team's great performance in singles in the semi and final, they didn't need to play.
World Championships was a 1st-round loss to Dominic Auger and Julien Beaumier-Ethier of Canada
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Can't you stop this conspiracy talk now that the US team has won? I don't mean you personally, Tuna, but there have been so many paranoid comments about the table change that it starts getting annoying. They were showing this on television in Europe, hoping to reach a big audience. As I pointed out, the guys in charge must have been thinking they couldn't show people Table Soccer with 3 goalies. If you think that's stupid, I'm with you. But it doesn't have anything to do with cheating or anti-Americanism.
The first time I met Farid was at the Tornado Worlds in 1999. He told me of his organization and proclaimed that the Tornado World Champion was not the true champion because they would have to beat the Bonzini champion on his table. His point was that a true champion could not be crowned unless they won on all the tables in a multi-table tournament. That thought of a multi-table champion interest me, so I decided to help the USTSF get organized.
Then things changed, the ITSF became this powermunger dictatorship. The ITSF under Farid's direction lost sight of the original pure mission and began to demand changes from the manufactures. If a manufacture would not or could not deliver they were threaten with expulsion. When Jupiter and Eurosoccer could not meet Farid's demands they were banished and lost their investment in promoting the ITSF. Now with the changes made to Bonzini, Roberto sport, Tecball, Tornado and the others the tables have lost their unique qualities that defined each table’s individual game. Now the ITSF's demands are in the name of "consistent playing characteristics". So you may ask yourself why-not just have one official recognized table? Well guess what Farid and Massimo are planning on just that Mr. Bodygrove.
Ask your beloved Klaus if you don’t believe me.
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it isn't anti-american per se, it is Friad is anti-anyoneElseNotDoingItMyWay
it was cheating because Friad didn't follow the rules on his own organization to make the change AND he threatened the current 8 person ITSF executive board (of which Larry Davis is a memeber) that if they didn't vote his way he would replace them with new board memebers who where with his vision
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How do you guys know this info?
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reliable undisclosed sources
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Not wanting to sound like a broken record but I still like my idea of a table where you drop in the bar of your own perferred design. Hey, it's one way to keep everyone happy. A table that is built to certain specifications and a standard ball. Then you customize your own bar and man set-up, handle also. What bar and men would you use?
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Then things changed, the ITSF became this powermunger dictatorship. The ITSF under Farid's direction lost sight of the original pure mission and began to demand changes from the manufactures. If a manufacture would not or could not deliver they were threaten with expulsion. When Jupiter and Eurosoccer could not meet Farid's demands they were banished and lost their investment in promoting the ITSF. Now with the changes made to Bonzini, Roberto sport, Tecball, Tornado and the others the tables have lost their unique qualities that defined each table’s individual game. Now the ITSF's demands are in the name of "consistent playing characteristics". So you may ask yourself why-not just have one official recognized table? Well guess what Farid and Massimo are planning on just that Mr. Bodygrove.
I'm glad you've mentioned all that, because it corroborates what I said: It's not about anti-Americanism at all. I'm not even saying Farid is pro-American (he surely isn't), but he wouldn't show his resentments openly, I guess.
By the way, I find the idea of having something like a "world standard table" deeply disturbing.
Ask your beloved Klaus if you don’t believe me.
What's that supposed to mean? Are you so shallow that you want to judge me on the basis of something I wrote to bring a little life to a discussion on the internet??? I hope you're not.
it isn't anti-american per se, it is Friad is anti-anyoneElseNotDoingItMyWay
That's all I've been trying to say, thanks!
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