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Title: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 04, 2010, 05:50:09 AM
Hello All,

I've played foosball for years (on a crappy table) and am looking to buy a used bonzini or rene pierre. I have a couple little ones that are always messing with my foosball table and I can see an accident around the corner. Rather than having to keep them away from my table, I'd like to encourage them to play but I'm worried they'll get hurt. I live here in Portland, OR and I'd be willing to pick up pretty much anywhere in Oregon or Washington.

Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jkhFoos on October 04, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
Salsa,

I would highly recommend Alan (or Gloria) Cribbs of BonziniUSA.com. In the 70s RP seemed quite playable ,but their once was quality has deteriorated through time. I could not be happier with the slightly used Tournament Bonzini I got in Oct 08. I do respect & agree with safety first.  jkh

"Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the hell happened'.
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 07, 2010, 09:55:42 AM
Awesome... Thanks for the advice.. Quick question, how does a Bonzini play with tornado balls vs cork? Thanks again!
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jkhFoos on October 07, 2010, 03:13:56 PM
Tornado balls will feel heavy & slick partly negating the ball control inherently Bonzini. To me that's the fun part while the telescopic rods are a safety bonus.  Traditionally (you may recall) the cork balls were white, then natural, now yellow painted as used on the BonziniUSA tour. World Cup Bonzini uses the ITSF-B ball so you may want to try those too (super yellow visible, durable, round, still grippy & fun.) FOUR rules. 1. have fun 2. no spinning 3. have fun 4. taking one in the EYE or the family jewels violates rules 1 & 3. Hope this helps Salsa.   John
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 26, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
thanks for all your help! I just picked up a Bonzini B90 and this table is awesome! The coolest thing is I don't have to worry about the little ones on the other side of the table.
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj65/salsa086/bonzini.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj65/salsa086/bonzini2.jpg)
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: alaris on October 26, 2010, 11:50:09 PM
Great picture! Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 27, 2010, 12:04:00 AM
now if we could only get some Bonzini tournaments here in the NW.....

Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on October 27, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
That would be a long drive :D

If you want your men upgraded to ITSF specifications just let me know.
I'll upgrade for free, you only have to pay for shipment.
About $36.00 FEDEX Ground.
Turn around in about 5 days.

Your table looks great. ?Maybe someday we'll be able to hit the NW with an event.

Alan

Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on October 27, 2010, 03:56:02 PM
thanks for all your help! I just picked up a Bonzini B90 and this table is awesome! The coolest thing is I don't have to worry about the little ones on the other side of the table.

Nice, where did you end up getting the table from?
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 28, 2010, 02:39:26 AM
Alan, thanks for your offer. I've been amazed at how having a Bonzini table is like being part of a special club. What does the upgrade entail for the men? Would it be a swap? Or is a modification of some type made to the men? How different will it play with the upgrade? thanks for your offer! I really do appreciate it!
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 28, 2010, 02:45:02 AM
JinHo, I picked the table up from a craigslist ad. I drove my family across 4 states stopping at every tourist spot so the kids wouldn't get bored. The trip was great. The table itself has a great story. It started off in Paris with the original owner. The owner then took it with him to Rio De Janeiro, then he moved to the US and brought it with him. Then I took a trek to bring it to it's current home, here in Portland, Oregon. I think my table needs it's own passport! :)
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on October 28, 2010, 04:37:39 AM
Interesting story about the table.
See your ball return is located on the right hand side. And the handle shape is a U.S. design
This was a modification made specifically by me for the U.S. market.
U.S. players like to practice alot and the original French tables have their goal on the left hand side.
On your table, at one of the ends, is a serial number stamped into the wood. If you can forward me that number I can track the origin of your table.

The man modification will improve ball control. You would be without your tables use for about a week.

(http://www.bonzini.com/images/stories/produits/Illustrations%20Gamme/B90/01_b90_standard.jpg)
French Model

(http://www.bonziniusa.com/foosball_sales/foosball/tables/family_home/images/B90.jpg)
U.S. Model
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on October 28, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
Alan:

Who is the one selling this table in Nags Head, NC?

http://outerbanks.craigslist.org/tag/1969202531.html
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on October 28, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
I don't know.
But if I had seen it in time I would have bought it.
A gentlemen from Ohio bought it last week I think.
I'm doing the men upgrade for him in a few weeks.
That was a hell of a deal.
That table could have sold for $1,800.00 easily.
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on October 29, 2010, 11:10:28 AM
Alan:

I know this is a super old post, but I wonder what happened to this table:

http://www.netfoos.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=2040

I'm still trying to find a super great deal on a Bonzini B90 or B60 for the kids to play on (and the big kids to play on as well).  The tables I find that are great deals seem to only be out East, and I'm worried about shipping costs and possible damage to the unit.  On the slim chance I am able to find a table with a seller who will work with me on shipping...what is the best and most economical way for someone to ship a Bonzini table?
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Old Meister on October 29, 2010, 11:40:59 AM
Salsa086, It would be a lot of fun to play on that table of yours. Have you seen the nwfoosball.com site? We are having the Oregon state championships the weekend after Thanksgiving Day in Tigard.  It would be good to see you there. Arlie
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on October 29, 2010, 05:51:47 PM
PM your address to me and I'll run it through my Fed Ex freight guy.

We have experience some increased sells activity here lately. Our inventory will be depleted by the middle of November. I'm trying to get a new shipment in ASAP. I believe there are a lot of players interested in creating a new culture of foosers based on some of the principles we operated by.

I'm pretty excited about our new website that will launch in early January and our potential growth in 2011.

AC


Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: salsa086 on October 29, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
Thanks Alan, the serial number is 17483. The lady I bought it from said her husband bought it... I do remember her mentioning they spent some time on the east coast but she was happy to get rid of it since they've been taking it with them all over the globe. Thanks for checking into it. Would be nice to get the history on the table.
Regarding the upgrades for the men? I'd like to get them upgraded. What does that involve and where do I make a payment? Do I have the send the men to you or is there a kit you send out? I just ordered some ITSF-B balls, I'm guessing the upgraded men will make me fully ITSF compliant. Are there any other upgrades or modifications I should consider?  

Old Meister, I'd love to join the tournament. I'm not very good and before my bonzini I had only played on a cheap sportcraft table. I once entered a tournament in Tigard, unfortunately I think I ruined someone's night when I was paired up with them in a random draw doubles tournament. I'll see about playing in the amateur singles or doubles. I'd love to buy you a beer sometime and maybe you can show me some things to practice on a tornado table. I've always got a cold one ready here at home if you want to try the bonzini. Expect to beat me 10 - 0 though.




Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Old Meister on November 01, 2010, 05:48:04 PM
Salsa, all foos is good foos. If you want to play where you are welcomed with both arms then play the Tuesday DYP in Forest Grove. Harold Hutchinson is the real deal and you will feel totally welcome. I think you will gain a bit of notoriety being that you have a Bonzini. There is a couple of guys in the NW that use frontpins, Floppy(Mike Doyle, and Rocky, a foos distributor in Seattle) They both can do the deed on frontpins. By all means come to the OSC and play and watch. It's all good and everyone is totally welcome. And Yes, I'd love to play you sometime on that table of yours.
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jkhFoos on November 01, 2010, 08:29:07 PM
Beautiful Children Salsa
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on November 17, 2010, 11:32:15 AM
If you want your men upgraded to ITSF specifications just let me know.
I'll upgrade for free, you only have to pay for shipment.
About $36.00 FEDEX Ground.
Turn around in about 5 days.

Alan


Alan:

As a recent owner of a heavily used Bonzini B60, I am very interested in getting my men modified as well.

I would also like to restore my table to it's original glory, and was curious if you had a catalog like Valley does, that breaks down all the replaceable parts along with their part numbers...see here:

http://www.valley-dynamoparts.com/docs/Tornado_BD_2010_Online.pdf

I would also like to see what the prices are for the parts.  I believe the table was used in a bar setting and has quite a few burn marks in various areas, as well as other typical abuse seen in that type of public setting.  I have the serial number and would also love to know the "history" of my table, or whatever else is known about my table.

Let me know how to proceed...  Thank you so much!
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on November 18, 2010, 01:34:27 AM
Go to fascebook and search for Bonzini U.S.A.
There is a pdf of the spare parts there.


AC

Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on November 18, 2010, 01:06:15 PM
Alan:

Hmmmm...I went to the facebook page, but I didn't see any place where I could download a .pdf that breaks out all the Bonzini parts.  I did see some photos of what I was looking for, but unfortunately the resolution/image quality of those photos were not very good.  So when I printed them out, it was difficult to read the part numbers and descriptions of the parts.  Is there a way you could email me the .pdf directly to:  jinhopark@yahoo.com?

Thank you so much!

-Jinho
Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: Alan Cribbs on November 18, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
I'll send you the file tomorrow.

AC

Here's the link to spare parts on Facebook

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=16596&id=103231616394660

Title: Re: WTB a Bonzini or Rene Pierre in the NW
Post by: jinhopark on November 18, 2010, 09:30:53 PM
Alan:

Yeah I saw those pics on Facebook...the diagrams printed out ok, but the parts list is darn near impossible to read.

Looking forward to getting that file tomorrow and assessing what needs to be done on my table.

Thanks.