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Chat Area => General Chat => Topic started by: Buckshot on October 05, 2011, 08:04:34 AM
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I'm starting this topic because I love telling this story. About 20 years ago at a tournament in Long Beach, CA, I was watching an open doubles match in which Roger Vance was playing goalie.( Dynamo World Champ Tony Bacon once told me that he thought Roger was the best roller-ball style player he ever saw and I agree.) It got down to match ball. The opposing forward set up the pull shot, cranked a blazing long, and Roger stuffed him from the back, winning the match!
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how about that story, but instead of a pull, it's a euro-pin, and the stuff includes a bank shot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNEj0rUgKyw
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oops, make that a snake and a bank.
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Now, THAT'S incredible!
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Note that his opponent is Johannes Wahle, ranking second in singles on that table. But to complete the impression, I'll tell you how many Elo-Points these guys have. Jo has 2,992. The third place belongs to Jamal Allalou with 2,941 points. The number 10 on that list has 2,704 points...
... and Rico has 4,029.
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well, that was okay.... hahahaha, it was a good shot but I have witnessed a shot that has topped all I have ever seen and I was actually on the table when it happened. I have seen a ton of crazy shots , especially in two ball, but none like the one I witnessed first hand. Billy Pappas and I were playing two ball on a warrior at La. state. He makes a stick lane pass to the first guy, and remember you can't stop the ball in two ball so this was done on the fly. As soon as the ball hit's the first guy, he goes into an alleyoop immediately, he approaches the ball with the second guy to finish the alleyoop, but then he changes the shot and then approaches the ball with the first guy. He then shoots a pushkick, but.... he then takes his right hand off the handle and goes into an alien of which he just thunders into the long hole. OH MY GOD. All I could say was WWWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW. I looked up at the other guys we were playing and their mouths were wide open as was mine. I looked at Billy and he says with a chuckle, " he he he, that was cool " What Billy hit was .... an Alleyoop Pushkick Alien... hurts to even think about it. And this shot was done at blinding speed and power. It was simply just sick. Billy even tried to do the shot again but he couldn't, too bad it was not on video. And mind you, when the ball hit his three rod, the entire sequence was over in a second. I was just lucky to witness it.
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hey Pat , you still coming to P4P?
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Hey Ice, yes, I'll definitely be there. And I'm looking forward to meeting you!
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Okay, Gitablok, I've been away from they game for a while so you'll have to educate me a little bit on your terminology so I can visualize the shot you just described. I know what a pushkick is, but what's an alleyoop and what's an alien? How long have these terms been around?
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Alley-oop is when the ball is immediately shot off of the 5bar pass, also called a one-timer or drivethru, although you can alley-oop pushkicks and pullkicks as well (a la Spredeman)
Alien is a 3bar shot that starts using your right hand, but instead of finishing with a wrist flick or palm roll, you take your right hand off of the rod, and roll your left hand down the rod to get a rollover finish. It's illegal in most games.
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Alley-oop is when the ball is immediately shot off of the 5bar pass, also called a one-timer or drivethru, although you can alley-oop pushkicks and pullkicks as well (a la Spredeman)
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There is a version of the alley-oop, called a "Turbo," similar to a car engine kicking into turbo, or perhaps more familiarly.. the sudden boost on radio-controlled (RC) cars you initiate by pulling the trigger on the controller all the way back. This variation requires a true one-timer pass (hockey term) with no pause to stop or redirect the ball, as in a turbo-to-pullkick or to-pushkick or to-flipover.. A dink-speed or even a medium-speed pass with the 3bar swinging before the ball's there, to accelerate it into the goal... Never seen a turbo done with a full-speed pass like a fake hard stick pass advance, but I'd love to see that..
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Also forgot what they call that hard, hard fake pullkick bounce from the twobar, but instead of a normal bounce off the wall towards the goal, it's actually a near bank off the wall .. : pullkick to near wall, ball is near-banked immediately off the bounce.. This allows a wider angle into the near corner of the opposing goal. And the defense of course has to always protect the standard pull-bounce-and-kick on the near-wall. When executed.. there is hardly any noticeable time between the ball hitting the near wall and then the immediate near bank... a crushing shot actually used in tourneys, especially singles.
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And of course... legends like Terry Moore did the mirror image, off the far wall... pretty insane but beautiful when it's hit.
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sounds like you are describing a " slingshot "
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and we also call an alleyoop a shot that starts on the first guy of the three rod that hits the back wall at an angle and then is hit with the second guy after it returns from the wall into the goal. it looks like a mis executed push kick hit too early so the goalie freaks out trying to catch the ball which opens the goal for the second guy to score.
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In Canada we call that the McDonald's Arch. It's a fastball shot.
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sounds like you are describing a " slingshot "
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I know what you're saying, Ice, .. but I thought the "Slingshot" was a straight up kick to the near goal corner off the wall... looks very similar, prolly just as hard... like a 5bar bounce pass on steroids, andro and whatever Pujols of the Cards is taking.... but the shot I really like is very similar in execution, but instead of a standard brush shot off the bounce... it really is a short side bank .. AFTER THE BOUNCE .... giving a bigger angle to the near goal corner and really really hard to defend.. since the defending forward still HAS to block the standard brushback bounce shot ...
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I just hope some one taped a show match Rico played at the P4P German Championships. He destroyed a German Pro with bank shots from all positions, Tic Tacs, Push/Pull Shots, Euro Pins, Sling Shots, anything you can imagine, and won the game 5:1. You think that's nothing too unusual? You would be right - if Rico hadn't used ONLY HIS LEFT HAND!
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It's highly probable that Rico, Billy and Tony are mutants, and so any shot they've done should not count in this thread...
Having said that, during the 1980s in Colorado there was a player with just stunning speed and power named Doug Moe (no relation to the former Denver Nuggets coach with the same name). Doug generally didn't win in tour events because he often couldn't restrain his power with a certain degree of control needed to win, but he could put on some incredible demos. (His follow-on proteges included Gary Edgeworth, Lee Roley, Grant Nelson and others also known for raw power.) In any case, Doug and Tom Spear used to challenge each other on blasting a set of pull kicks that Doug used to call "Inviso" and "Turbo" to see who could hit it harder and/or louder. Amazing (and ear-ringing) to watch the both of them taking turns doing it. But one time I was at a tournament with Spear (I can't remember where; maybe St. Louis) where Spear was attracting a crowd doing the Inviso demo and on one shot he hit the ball so hard it came back out, deflected off a rod and went almost straight up into the air hitting a ballroom chandelier, breaking some of its glass and proceeding to hit the ceiling (about 20-24 feet above the table) whereupon it came straight back down and hit Charles MacIntosh -- who like everyone else was looking up at the ball/chandelier) -- in the eye. Fortunately all Charles suffered was a very swollen black eye for the rest of the tournament, but Spear was barred from any more Inviso-shot demos...
Not sure if that counts for this thread, since part of what happened wasn't "on" a foosball table...
Larry "Foosball is war by other means" Davis