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A big problem with "Todays Major Tournaments", are the promoters intention to drag them out. Dragging them out is one way to keep the operating costs and player entry fees down. But because the prizes are still low in comparison, this dragging out, continues to cause the loss of players through attrition, thus decreasing the cream quality and number of top players in the cream of the crop pool in the USA.
Lets face it, the players do not have the incentive to quit their regular job to practice enough and to stay on the road enough to win these events as there is not enough money to be earned to do so..Thus the promoters need to realize "once and for all" (DUH) the working players are the ones that are attending these events, and as a result is why you continue to see top players(in all Ranking Classes) year after year, quit the tour, thus resulting in the cream of the crop players having a lessor challenge, thus providing a mechanism *not requiring the remaining and new players to take the highest challenge* towards reaching the current reduced cream at the top. This is creating what I call a Death Spiral Effect on the ability of the USA Promoters to increase the quality of the cream of the crop Foosball Players.. Thus the top pool of players are not reaching their maximum potential.
The answer is, the Tournaments need players who have money to spend and most of the time that means players who have jobs. *Players with Jobs*need tournaments designed *to not require as much time away from work*, even if the prize money is reduced somewhat, until sponsorships (or some other method) is available to up the prize money to an amount, that creates the incentive to loose your job and stay on the tour, or it makes economic sense to make the choice to use your time off work and money to play.
Most players would like to choose to pay to play foosball, not to pay to set in a hotel room and stand around waiting for their event and match to start. But with the current system, the way it, Players(after figuring this out) simply choose another hobby, which is more reasonable in the management of their time and economic resources. Thus Rico continues to dominate USA Foosball.
Make a list of all the players that went to the World Championships during each of the last 10-15 years and no longer go..A Large percentage do not go any more as a result of the problem I mentioned above._________________
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Rico dominates because he is the best EVER
tournament structure and available resources to fund the tournaments is a big issue
there are more factors than US players not staying with the game that makes Rico dominant because he is dominant on 5 or 6 other tables (actually each and every table anyone puts in front of him) in Europe and they don't have the same tournament issues the US does
take a gander at his record, it will take your breath away
http://www.speedplay.be/profile.php?id=3&page=activity
Rico is the best because
* He has what is probably the best all around, every rod and every hand, ball control ever certainly at the top of any list - but the best I have ever seen (spree is right there)
* He can do more with his left hand than 90% of the players can do with their right hand
* He has one of the top offensive 5's in foosball history
* He has one of the best defensive 5's in foosball history
* He has unquestionably the best 2 to 5 in foosball history (spree is the only one who even comes close)
* He has one of the most effective 3 bars in history
* He is one of the top couple defensive goalies in the game and eventually I guess people will say in history
* He is one of the best all time keeping balls in the goalie area and stopping slop
* He has a great 2 bar (you don't see on Tornado)
* He is one of the quickest people in foos history and may have the fastest hands in foosball today
* He has the best transition game in foosball maybe ever
* He has one of the hardest zones in singles to score on...ever
* He has a sixth sense at picking up loose balls
* He plays intense all the time and hates to loose
* He plays very smart intense but controlled foosball all the time
* He plays as good as any in history under pressure
* He comes back after a loss and probably wins 90%+ of his games
* He is careful to keep and put away games
* He closes out as good as anyone who has ever played - if he has you down, he will keep at you
* He is creative, unpredictable, and can do anything from any rod at any time and seems to have a sixth sense on when to and when not to do this
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Yes they could have a foosball tournament that only players with a real job were allowed to play in. The only probelm is that there would only be about six teams. note: emptying quarters once a week from your three tables or selling T-shirts at the swapmeet doesn't count as a real job.
also, I agree with the above post.......... Rico is weak :P!
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I agree, rico sucks, because he has NEVER beaten me
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He has never beaten me in the finals!
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whatever SNBlows...have fun, Mr Tighty Whity could make you look like a crippled school girl I am quite certain - after a couple of minutes of getting your A$$ handed to you, you would be begging him for a squirt from his special bottle
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Rico has never even blocked my pull shot. and never scored on me with his euro, not even once. I agree with the guy whose snake shot blows! oh wait, rico is the best player ever to live and dominates everyone... i forgot that part.
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Ha Ha Ha ha That's funny. All though I do see him playing that innocent card so people let him get away with tiny adjustments and extra time. I want to see Snake whip the Belgian brat ! Just Do It !
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oh now your bad mouthing the backpin...you need to slink back to your shiny green top and those wobbly white balls stamped with the TS and hand set your pull and pretend you can play again
you can bank your way into heaven while you reminisce about how you took the legendary Steve Simon to match ball... once and and ah yea, "I toaked on a bong with Doug "God" Fury..."No really, I did"
what are you going to do on the Tornado, you can't do chip passes or bank and no one will let you hand set your pull...well, I assume you shoot a pull, because you are good at yanking on things
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ahh, you are a dual threat, slow witted AND a flamer ;D...perhaps the "Blow" part of your name means something other than what it appears on the surface :P
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What the hell? Why are you guys snappin' at each other? " It's just foosball !"
Who is Shot Blows and BBTUNA anyway ?
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Mr. Blow..."With all due respect" how much did you get for the half you sold
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WG,
thanks for trying to be the peace-maker but no need to git yr undies in a bunch ;D...just a little light-hearted trash talking ;)
I am a long time poster (realatively speaking -615 posts) and my name is Charles Dangler
Mr. Blow on the other hand is a new poster (15 posts) on this board and has started out flaming on a number of threads and so far he refuses to say who he is cause he's scared :P
I suspect that he/she is an old timer who is trying to reconcile their first go around during the "golden age" when all foosball, players, and tables were better than the current illegal limp-wristed and bankless game of today AND on top of that he/she can not believe that anyone not American could be as good, let alone twice as good, as his original heros
I feel sorry for Mr. Blow so I am just having fun wit him, problem is hes a little slow
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Seriously get some class man.. And what might be your idea of the ultimate player?? Yourself of more important (what you used to be) in your mind..And if Rico is weak where does that put Spredeman or for that fact Gummeson or T-Mac? I would absolutely love to see Tony 5 bar to 3 bar pull kick on your ass all day long...whilst your thinking about your next what? HACK?
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snake eyes... Who are you talking to?
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I am talking to Snake Shot Blows...The guy is causing havoc all over the board..read his posts.
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okay, Yeah I've seen his posts. It seems like he's not the only one throwing spears !
Everyone knows who the great players are...... maybe "Snake Blows" will have to play Rico or Tony in his bracket at the tourney ... then it will change his mind about how weak these players are.
Sort of like a wake up call !
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people that say stuff like this either really know better and they are trying to be funny or stir up a reaction (which if this is true it is working apparently) - they are little children needing attention...best not to feed the animal, nothing will bother them more than ignoring them
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they really believe this dribble which would make them, well you know, a little teched (along the lines of a person who thinks they are a poached egg)...we should have pity on this person in hopes that one day, the light will turn on and they will enter the world of the sane...this person struggles with a grasp on reality and seeing what everyone else sees...sort of like the American Idol contestant who thinks they can sing but everyone else in the world knows they are worse than bad kareokee
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nice try blow boy but i rarely if ever talk about my own skill and I would guess I practice more than most anyone on this board
i am a fat old fart and I just "***" around with my backpin...I am sure a manly man like yourself would have no problem getting and staying in front of it...
I mean, the backpin is at least old school you should be given me credit for not shooting the illegal limp-wristed spin shot*
*note for those who don't "blow" - this is ironic humor because I am all for the illegal limp-wristed spin shot even though I think the backpin is the best shot on the table, the pull totally rocks, and Rico's Euro Pin is the winningest shot from the best player, by a long shot, of all time
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How about moving on to another topic.....
You guys are flamin too much ! Let's stick with the three facts:
1. Snake's a Bully
2. Rico's a Punk
3. Tuna's a Hot Head
Now please move on.
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4. Vince Powers sounds like a stripper name
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Dynamo, they make Air Hockey tables right?
okay, okay, stick to the facts.
-Vince Powers is your official male stripper name and you work the male bar scene
-Rico in his Euro tighty whitey Jordache jeans, spritzer bottle, and blind-folded would beat Doug Fury when he was at his best - you pick the table
-the snake shot is the best thing to happen to foosball since lemon pledge was used to lubercate your rods
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Why are you messing with my name? ::) ???
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hey i never said its a bad thing to have a stripper name...
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SSB is just tryin to start arguements - its stupid. Tuna, relax everyone is just giving you a hard time - The less people that reply to this topic the less people that will have to read this nonsense
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I don't cae if Mr Blow rips on me, so far it has all been in fun...I don't take anything he has said personally
I am quite certain he has never even seen a backpin before so I can easily ignore is senseless statements
he is just getting a little "blow back"...
and Rico and his white pants, you gotta love anyone who can dig this long and deep in public
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9pJbSAVtxY
Vince Powers Dyno Boy
I was just giving you shi$$ cause you gave me sh$$ when you said I was a Hot Head
you posting children need to learn about the difference between post trash talking, flaming, and real anger
I have been angry before, right Brad? but that is pretty rare really and I always calm back down and apologize if I go whack
so far, none of this even comes close
except Blow Boy bagin on my man Freddy the grab miester
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I have been angry before, right Brad?
I'll decline commenting on any of this... This thread has gone on way too long and we're all dumber for having read it.
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Brad,
not much else happens on this board, a little levity for part of a day...dude, have some fun, come out and playeay
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Dear Mr Blow,
Please don't talk about my man that way
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Dear Mr Blow,
Please don't talk about my man that way
Damn, Charles. I thought little Joe was your main man. ;D
Just kidding. I just wanted to add the mess before I turn on the exhaust fan :-[
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you know that little Dube is my man :P
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Please no more I dont know who to trust anymore..
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He he BBtuna! Ya got a live one. Subtle bait will always catch a fish sooner or later and I think you got a big sucker for sure. Must be a pull shooter,,, yup, sounds like a pull shooter,,,
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Blow Boy,
you said,
" I can hear Tuna saying, " Here Freddy... I 'll find that quarter for ya"" but I am certain you meant to add,
"Not there is anything wrong with that, I have several best friends who are..."
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Owww! Oh, Gee, dang that almost hurt. You may be right, I wouldn't doubt it. So tell us about yourself Snake blower, are you from Wisconsin or the NW that you've seen me play?
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getting back on the subject:
Make a list of all the players that went to the World Championships during each of the last 10-15 years and no longer go..A Large percentage do not go any more as a result of the problem I mentioned above._________________
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getting back on the subject: Make a list of all the players that went to the World Championships during each of the last 10-15 years and no longer go..A Large percentage do not go any more as a result of the problem I mentioned above._________________
As always, to promote foos on the national scale, it needs a national sponsor or two or three. We should find out which COO's and CEO's that used to foos are doing with promotions at their companies, and systematically approach them.. It is too hard to try to explain the attraction of being a fooser to a non-fooser. Exactly the same as trying to convey the "thrill" of baseball or golf or curling, for that matter, to non-afficionados. These games are akin to fraternities/sororities.. but have a really lifelong hook, even addiction, once you're in the group. And that's what can attract promotional departments and organizations.
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These games are akin to fraternities/sororities.. but have a really lifelong hook, even addiction, once you're in the group. And that's what can attract promotional departments and organizations.
The only thing that attracts promotional departments is the oppurtunity to generate awareness for their brands in the public. Sponsors will thrust themselves into the sport as soon as it attracts a lot of spectators. Foosball needs spectators. That means we need more people playing the game, since no one else is ever going to watch it.