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Chat Area => General Chat => Topic started by: shane55 on May 26, 2011, 08:28:42 AM
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Just wanted to say I did some business with Brad Laurine and Fireball and the customer service he provided was excellent! Hats off to Brad and the Fireball team. Shane
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Did he get you the new ball? Where's that ball Brad? I can't wait to get my new ball!!!!! :D
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I can't wait to play on Fireball tables again! Washington State Open, here I come!
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Thanks Shane! If you want you can go on and on, I won't get tired of reading it...
Balls, I will finally have balls! The balls that Dennis and I developed are going to be available starting next week.
In Seattle, they were introduced and all I heard was good stuff. Most people didn't know of my personal involvement with the balls and they were making great comments. Ease of catching, grippiness and can shoot all the shots with ease. Banks and back pins were great... part of that is because of the foot design but it helps to have a ball that you can shoot everything with and then some.
As a side note. The same balls, all day/night long were played on in the tables. All tables contained 2 balls. I would venture a guess of a 50 games in 12 hours and an hour or two of warm up. Their was only 7 tables for 85 players. After the night was over, I gathered up the balls and washed them. I threw them back in for yet another day of playing. SUPER IMPRESSIVE! They were grippy and came out very clean looking. All but one, I tossed away. It was early on Friday night when I noticed it was not round. All the balls played GREAT!
After the event, I felt that the balls made a great showing. They are fast and grippy but not fuzzy. They are not as hard as the Tornado ball and they are a world a part in terms of catching and controlling the ball.
My belief is that the game is hard enough to control the ball. This ball is very fast but way easier to catch. I think it will make the newer player better faster and appreciate the game more. Older players and Texas players will not like it because it makes those newer players stronger. The advantage the Pro has is diminished. The Texas player like the balls to be hard as nails and slicker.
Thanks for reading this far...
Brad Laurine
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It sounds like I'm going to love this ball, being a Bonzini player. Can't wait. I've been checking the store every day. I can't wait to get this ball. Sounds like they've got some life to them too. ;D
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I have a question. Did you guys change the handles? The table that was at Tx State seemed to have different handles than I remember and if you did, I don't want to buy them anymore.
And I don't care what anyone says. You will forever be ball-less. (You could try here, though... http://www.bumperballz.com/ Probably the closest you'll ever get)
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Balls, I will finally have balls! .."
Always great to have a pair o nice, working balls...
This ball is very fast but way easier to catch. I think it will make the newer player better faster and appreciate the game more. Older players and Texas players will not like it because it makes those newer players stronger. The advantage the Pro has is diminished. The Texas player like the balls to be hard as nails and slicker....
Dunno bout older players not liking it, since a grippier ball would harken back to the Dynamo TS days. Or even the Warrior ball, still the best I've ever played with.. and the results: still the same familiar faces winning.. And I'm not sure it would bother Texas players too much... since it still gets going at speed.. at least not any of the Texas pros I know.. In fact I think they'd eat it up and take even better advantage of it in passing and grabbing loose balls. And a grippier but still-as-fast ball sure wouldn't hurt any rocking-style rollover shooters.. so all those pros, Texas or not, whom already have great control on their rollover motion, can take it to the edge even more. Really don't think any of them will be in any danger soon...
If there is any real new condition for any hardened Tornado pros.. it would be going up against good expert and pro Euro-style or even old-school power-palm-roll players.
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TSR Brad,
Nope, same handle as before. No change. Shoot, I had the table all wrapped up in a pink bow and all for ya.
The ball is grippy and fast. The Warrior ball is never fast. It has so much fuzz that it slows way down.
I see this ball as a much more user/player friendly ball. I will have them up for sale on the website by the end of the week.
I can take the orders...
Brad
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Brad, how are you taking orders? Through foosball.com or through Fireball? I would love to order a few, but I've been postponing my order to foosball.com because I wanted to simplify. I'm not ordering mass quantities for distribution. I just want a handful.
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BradA,
Foosball.com will have the balls in a week or so.
Foosball.com and myself will be the only ones for awhile... maybe for a real long time that will be selling parts on line.
Fireball men don't break, rods don't bend and the bearings never wear out. Pins and bumpers? Not going to buy me a big house anytime soon.
Later, Brad
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BradA,
Foosball.com will have the balls in a week or so.
Foosball.com and myself will be the only ones for awhile... maybe for a real long time that will be selling parts on line.
Fireball men don't break, rods don't bend and the bearings never wear out. Pins and bumpers? Not going to buy me a big house anytime soon.
Later, Brad (@) Fireballtablesoccer (dot) com
You're a putz.
(Remember that time I locked you out of your store? That was awesome!)
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BradA,
Foosball.com will have the balls in a week or so.
Foosball.com and myself will be the only ones for awhile... maybe for a real long time that will be selling parts on line.
Fireball men don't break, rods don't bend and the bearings never wear out. Pins and bumpers? Not going to buy me a big house anytime soon.
Later, Brad (@) Fireballtablesoccer (dot) com
Brad:
Were you successful in redesigning your unbendable rods to fit on a Tornado? If so when will those be readily available?
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BradA,
Foosball.com will have the balls in a week or so.
Foosball.com and myself will be the only ones for awhile... maybe for a real long time that will be selling parts on line.
Fireball men don't break, rods don't bend and the bearings never wear out. Pins and bumpers? Not going to buy me a big house anytime soon.
Later, Brad (@) Fireballtablesoccer (dot) com
Brad:
Were you successful in redesigning your unbendable rods to fit on a Tornado? If so when will those be readily available?
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Interesting... always thought that the Fireball rods already DID fit on Tornados, except for that open ends (away from the handled end) disappeared into the bearing at full extension.
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Fireball rods will fit a Tornado just fine. Tornado rods need to be cut about a quarter of an inch to be easily interchangeable on Fireball, ie if you don't want to remove the men in order to get the rod in and out. All that means is that when a Fireball rod is put in a Tornado(and to do that you will have to remove the men) the end of the rod will disappear into the bearing hole when fully pulled, but that will not cause any issues because it will still ride on the bearing. The only issue would be whether the Fireball rod is too thick in diameter, but I'm pretty sure that they are nearly the same, so much so that the bearing won't register a noticeable difference. In fact, that is terribly important, because it's not only a matter of getting the rod in the Tornado table, but having the Tornado men and pins fit the Fireball rod.
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Fooball.com, WHERE IS MY NEW BALL?!!!
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Fooball.com, WHERE IS MY NEW BALL?!!!
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You only ordered one ball? Didn't you order at least two? Seems like everyone could do with a pair of balls...
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Unless everyone grows a pair themselves, of course.
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;D LOL! They're not available on foosball.com yet. That's my gripe. I'll order several when they finally become available sometime this week, the end of this week, the end of this month, the end of the year, sometime next Spring, who knows. If you own a Fireball and you're sick of the Tornado ball on that table, like I am, you'll be as impatient as I am to get the new ball ASAP. I'm not just a casual player. I suspect that many on this board take this game as seriously as I do and might understand my impatience. I am incredibly enthusiastic as to the potential of Fireball, the future of Fireball, and I've been foaming at the mouth since the announcement of the new ball several weeks ago. I'm sick of waiting. Nothing against Brad or any other Fireball execs, just get the dam ball out on the market. PLEASE!!!!!
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While helping Brad a bit with table tear downs after the WSO I asked if I could get one of the balls for practice. He reaches down and plucks one from a box and tosses it to me saying, "If it gets dirty, wash it with cleanser. That's all you need to do." What a great ball! It isn't fuzzy but is nice and grippy and is fast. I'm really enjoying it on my Tornado but I'm seriously thinking of replacing the Tornado with a Fireball. Brad has been very careful not to talk down Tornados but I think he knows that more and more people are leaning towards Fireball as they get to play them more, especially old schoolers. The rods are fast and tough, 1" thick bed and positive control, what's not to love? ;D
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Thanks Meister. I'm not going to talk down Tornado either. I've been playing Tornado a lot more lately and I LOVE it. I'm starting to square my push shot, and my passing's coming along. Nobody can deny the quality of a Tornado table and the precision and speed it has. Everyone says the pro game is all about that, and I get it, but I enjoy the cat and mouse of the control style of game on Bonzini. My backpin is inferior on Tornado because the ball slips too much, but I like bringing my slide push back to life and I'm also experimenting with the pull - hate the rollover though - don't want to sell out;^). Cool. I get it. The thing is, the majority of my game becomes possible on Fireball, especially with the new choice of ball. I can't wait. I'm sick of the debate about who's the better player, Euro or American style, Tornado, Bonzini, etc. If Fireball suddenly became the top choice, I'd begin to miss Tornado. Hell, I wish I could find a Garlando locally just to see what it's like. I LOVE THIS GAME!! I love the variety of styles. I can't wait to get this new ball. Sounds like it's the real deal.
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Anderson, anyone whose game is about control while moving the ball will love both the ball and the Fireball table. Bbtuna and I have talked the backpin game many times as well as a few other "old schoolers". This table delivers! With a few hours of practice us 50+ers are 20 somethings again with our games. It is truly sweet! Texas, watch out! The northern style is coming at you! LOL! ;)
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Anderson,
Foosball.com will have the balls beginning of next week.
If you want it sooner I can send some to you for whatever price Jim and Deb has them for and give the profit to them. I certainly don't want to steal a sale.
We have log nearly 100 hours on 3 balls. They are getting dirty and then I clean them with Comet and a scrub brush. It is getting harder to get them back to totally clean and bright. No chips or flat spots yet. They are staying grippy and fast. They don't roll out as straight as an arrow like a brand new one but not bad enough to get out a new one either. They all set up fine for a pull shot, either in the back or on the 3 row.
Sorry, but I am of course completely bias and can't be trusted. Please take this as opinion that comes from the guy that was deeply involved with the development of a new ball. THEY ARE AWESOME!
The Fireball Coin Op's that I have set up are fantastic!!! A little over 300 games (mech drops) they are working great. As a player, this is the best playing table I have ever played on. The USA PRO Home version, with weights in the legs play fantastic as well. It is nice to be able to say, as a player, that I can do things on a Fireball that I can't do on any other table. Like hit a square deadman 3 times in a row at a rate of speed that I normally can't do on other tables.
Again, totally bias statement coming from someone who has a financial stake in the game. Not to mention, Dennis and my desire to make the best playing table in the world.
Thank you guys for the positive comments. Fireball is proud to have you on board.
Brad Laurine
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Brad, I'm sure this ball is a lot like an ITSF-B ball. It can be cleaned nicely with alcohol, but sooner or later the ball retains little dents, small cuts where the ball gets harder to clean. On Bonzini that just makes them more grippy and more likeable. As a matter of fact, I traded a brand new b-ball for a very worn one in the hopes of having a ball that would give a Bonzini feel on my Fireball and it works great because of that grip. I have no doubt I'm going to love this ball. Keep up the good work.
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Brad how does the new ball tic tac has tony tryed it
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I got a set of Fireball Black Rods and players (THX TO BRAD), while waiting on buying a Fireball table. I fitted the rods on my T-3000. I had to modify the bearings for a perfect fit...I used fine sand paper and buffed the inner parts of the bearings in the ends (used a Dremel) to widen the bearings for these rods. The result was jaw dropping. Oh yeah, I did use the New Balls that Brad had sent me and not only it's 10x better than the old ball but it's better than the Warrior and Tornado balls also....Like I mentioned, I'm still getting a Fireball table since the bearings on the Fireballs are the best in the biz and not to mention the playfield grippiness and the faster traveling bank shots. But for now this is the best of both worlds. Enjoy the pic 8)
http://www.ccinlays.com/eBay/SG/FIRE_CLOSE.jpg
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That is probably the best foosball table that has ever been made! Nice picture!
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Anderson, the F-Ball is not very close at all to the B-Ball
Brad, where do those silver/grey men come from? What color are on the Coin-op tables?
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Love that pic!
My point about the b-ball and f-ball being similar is that they are both SMOOTH, and therefore at some point become less smooth while being dented and scraped during play. The result is that the dirt gets in the cracks at some point and the ball is less cleanable. Aside from that, the ball wears well and the only reason you would need to get a new one is if it sooner or later loses it's feel, the correct amount of grippyness and slip desired. I certainly hope the f-ball(I like that name, thanks for that) is not like the b-ball, because the b-ball is not heavy enough for the weight and momentum of the rods, and the b-ball isn't grippy at all on Fireball unless it's gummed up with about a year of grime.
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Gentleman,
I believe this video will answer your questions about ball control.
http://www.fireballtablesoccer.com/joomla15/the-table.html?start=1
This will link you to a YouTube video.
I could have put the direct link to YouTube, but then I need the hits on FireballTableSoccer.com. Sorry, Shameless marketing ploy! ;D
You might check out the Coin-Op information. I haven't finished the coin-op page yet, but it is close enough. :-X
More later,
Brad Laurine
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That is probably the best foosball table that has ever been made! Nice picture!
I agree, thank you for the feedback
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Here's a another photo
http://www.ccinlays.com/eBay/SG/FIRE_CLOSE2.jpg
TS players would appreciate my Leonhart_pro table.
http://www.ccinlays.com/eBay/SG/FIRE_LEO.jpg
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say nice tables what kind of handles do you have on the tornado with fireball rods and men are they fireball handles
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The Handles on the Tornado are German Lehmacher P4P Handles with that textured rubber on them as a grip, best grips and handles ever..... Both handles and rubber grips were ordered from Germany...
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The handles look interesting, are they a little bit bumpy? Is it a slide on wrap or just the handle with nothing covering it?
Its just too bad you have framps...
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whole handle is wrapped in the rubber.
The handle looks like this without the wraps:
http://www.kickerkult.de/WebRoot/Store7/Shops/61190833/4609/82EF/23DC/CA8C/DC7C/C0A8/286D/DD33/p4pgriff.jpg
I love one man goalie style, but to switch it up, I also have a flat playfield that I pup right in when needed.
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Wow you have it all, thats awesome.
Interesting handle shape.
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Great to see!
Thanks for the pictures and the info.
cool stuff,
Brad
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Hey Brad, since you're keeping in touch with this thread, I want to experiment with that multitable idea. I know that someone at Fireball has different bearings for different rods. I would really like to get my hands on a Bonzini set up. I just want to install a three-bar for practice. I posted a pic a while back of a Fireball which had a Bonzini rod installed, Garlando men, some of the German models, Tornado, and others. The bearings had different hole settings to adjust for the height of the players. How do I get my hands on some of that? I doubt you will ever be selling that commercially but I bought my table because the possibilities seemed endless.
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Those bearings are specialized to fit a Multi-use table. Ramps move up and down and the bearings will fit most rods.
You would be perfect to sell that table to.
I know of two of them sitting in a couple of warehouses. Austin and Maryland
Sell a table and get one of these. No, I don't know how much, I know I will want to see the one in Austin go to someone. I will ask Dennis how much he wants for it right this minute and get back to you.
Nobody has said a thing about the tic tac video... Guessing, everyone can do it.
Later, Brad
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So the table is different from the normal Fireball table. I was hoping it was just a matter of switching the bearings. Anyways, it was a really neat idea, but it would be better if one could simply install a different bearing on the normal table. I love the fact that I can switch a Fireball rod with a Tornado rod in a matter of seconds. It's nice to be able to practice with the Tornado men right before going to a Tourney. Nothing can replace an entire table, but most of us can't afford to have a copy of each and every table, but one can easily afford the bearings and a rod or two.
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Yes , I agree...This is a temporary thing I did. I wish the Fireball bearings worked on Tornado but they don't fit (Fireball bearing is wider diameter). I can't wait to get the Fireball table so I can just switch rods to any style I want in matter of minutes.
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Unfortunately, the only rods you can switch in would have to be nearly the same diameter and have similar height for the men. I have a few TS rods which I had to cut to length, a Garlando goalie rod I bought for kicks but have no bearings(but the height works), and a Tornado 3-rod. Bonzini appears to be the square peg which won't fit in the hole because the men are taller. Even if there were bearings, they'd have to mount the bar higher. One can dream.
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Mr. Anderson,
Stop dreaming and get the Multi-Play table out of Austin. $850. I just got off the phone with Dennis and he wants sell it cheap. It is a heavy table and has lots of options. Freight near the $225.oo
Later, Brad
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Not made of money Brad. In order to do that, I'd have to sell my current table for less than what I got it for($830) AND sell a lung. I like my ITSF model and my lungs. Maybe I can design my own bearings. Still, it's nice to know that you all at Fireball are listening to ideas. Still waiting on foosball.com to get the ball out. I might just be ordering through you soon.
By the way, I got my table in Atlanta last summer and I was wondering what changes have been made to the table since then. I know that the surface slants upward at the walls to keep the ball off the wall. That causes difficulty with some brush passing. Also, the ball gets lost in the ball return mechanism at times. Have you all solved these issues?
Actually, the way you are proceeding, I might be able to interest someone in my table. Maybe it's doable. Most of the players in my area are either die-hard Tornado or die-hard Bonzini, but I think, sooner or later, players will begin to realize how great a table this is.
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By the way, I got my table in Atlanta last summer and I was wondering what changes have been made to the table since then. I know that the surface slants upward at the walls to keep the ball off the wall. That causes difficulty with some brush passing. Also, the ball gets lost in the ball return mechanism at times. Have you all solved these issues?
Would be interested in this answer as well. I got my table in Seattle a little over a year ago. Also, Brad be careful about taking balls out of your pocket, there is a limited supply in there.
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Ha Ha, that was funny!
The German's that first ordered these tables about 6 years ago didn't have a clue about a lot of things. I think they enjoyed the way the ball didn't stop or have control. You should see what ball they were playing with as well.
Fireball and Dennis learned a lot from us from the first run to the second. The depth of the slope away from the side rail is about 3/4 of the ball width, compared to the spec of your tables of nearly 2 inches.
The ball drop is not perfect in the second batch but nearly. The first run was never tested. In China, testing is done but at a ridiculously low level or amount. It is very common in the factories to push product out the door without even a thought of how to put it together or testing the parts for compatibility. Whether it is Fireball or Chin's hat factory, they will not test products. In the West, it is standard for us to understand that testing is required. We expect product to be produced that has been tested.
On to the tables that you gentleman have, I too have one. I was feed up with the roll and the ball drop problem. I tore mine a part and screwed an 1" cabinet plywood board to the bottom and flatten that baby out! The ball drop, I tore that a part and reamed out a couple of problem spot. I then improved the drop angle. When we were playing on it, I had the drop always go to the opponents side to grab and start the serve.
I know that you guys are the first to buy and the first to get good word out. Thank you and I will help as much as I can to improve what you now have or upgrade to a better table.
Thank you, Brad Laurine
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Thanks for the response Brad, but the terms "ripped" and "reamed" reminds me of two guys in the state pen, not something I would do to my table. Any "upgrade" option possibly coming up for us early adopters ?
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I still say that the future direction for Foosball is the multi-play table where you bring your own set-up. Play with what you like. A whole new business could be started with custom men and handles as well as different weight rods. Bbtuna will back me up for having this idea a few years ago. Now it looks more and more possible, I love it!
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cough, cough, choke, oh oh, I think am going to get...
Okay, lets see, who are we going to sell this multi-play table to? Think in terms of marketing this one of kind table. You have to sell more than 200+ to keep it in the line. Even at that number it is a very small number.
ITSF hates the idea of one table that can handle the use of different rods. They have no choice but to avoid the desire to work with this type of table. What manufacture wants to make just rods and men to be placed onto a Fireball table?
It is a unique idea. It is a engineers dream to build a bearing that can be changed to except different rods. In marketing terms, I think it is interesting but selling them would be impossible. Way to small of a market!
Start smiling now...Prove me completely wrong and buy the first of thousands in North America. Please? chirp chirp sounds of silents... Hello, Hello, echo echo... LOL
Sorry, I am a fan of the concept but it doesn't fly outside of our cool circle of people.
Brad Laurine
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I will add that taking the rod out of the side of the Fireball table and putting in your own rod can be done, now. Custom handle, custom men and rod weight. When I get a chance, I will show you what I did for a custom feel on the Five rod and the three rod. Fits my hand like a glove, but the guys here will think I have an unfair advantage. What? Who me? No way! I am insulted!!!
Later, Brad
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Meister, I can assure you that many people have dreamed this idea on their own without any help. The problem is the ball and format of play. Add to that the surface. Even if I could put Bonzini men on a Fireball, the table would be too stiff, no give, and wouldn't have the grip that a Bonzini has. You would have to have an alternating-choose-the-ball format as well, an ITSF nightmare. It's a great idea, but completely unfeasible and especially not MARKETABLE. However, for the foosball enthusiast who wants to have a HOME table, doesn't have room for a DOZEN DIFFERENT tables, nor the capital, it's a dream come true. There aren't enough players in that market. Additionally, why would Tornado or Fireball or Bonzini or Garlando, or any COMPETITOR make it easier to play another product on their table? When Fireball created their 3-piece bearing, their mission most likely was to allow their own rods to be easily taken out for maintenance and shipping, not to allow the interchange of a Tornado 3-rod. I find this ability to be THE GREATEST INVENTION EVER and something that Fireball should investigate further for us diehards. THIS is why I bought this table. FOR OPTIONS.
Got a message from foosball.com today saying the new ball hasn't shipped yet. Should be available by the end of next week. Anyhow, they say they can add it to my order when the ball arrives.
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Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be more marketable for table manufacturers to reach out to other markets, to players who already own a table to buy something from them. Example. I'm Tornado. I want a Bonzini owner to play more Tornado, maybe someday buy a table from me, so I create a way to connect a reasonable FAKE rod, a simulation of the Tornado game on a Bonzini. Similarly, Bonzini creates a rod for Tornado owners to have a reasonable approximation on a Tornado table. I think this is more marketable. But even so, it's a dog-eat-dog world. Bonzini wants you to buy their table and forsake the other tables, Tornado can give a dam about Fireball, etc.
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This first pic is my Fireball with a Tornado 3-rod, a Tournament Soccer 5-rod and a Garlando goalie(I had to do some weird tinkering to get that to work)
(http://mathtakespractice.com/pictures/pic1.jpg)
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Here's another
(http://mathtakespractice.com/pictures/pic2.jpg)
and another
(http://mathtakespractice.com/pictures/pic3.jpg)
The MOST IMPORTANT POINT of both of these pictures, in case there are any non-Fireball owners reading this thread, is that it takes about 30 seconds for me to exchange that Tornado rod with a Fireball rod or Shelti, or Dynamo, etc. 30 seconds AT MOST. You don't have to deconstruct the rod. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, Brad. Find a way to build on this. I AM HOOKED!!!!!
AND GET ME THAT BALL!!!!!!
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GREAT STUFF!
Send me better pictures and I want to put this on my site!~
Cool!!!
Great thinking over all... Thanks for the boost.
The balls went out and will be in Maryland at the end of the week.
PS. the balls are way to good, I should horde them all!
Later, Brad
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Brad, you all at Fireball need to restyle your site. The blue color on a black background is virtually unreadable. Painful on the eyes. I took those pictures with my phone, the only camera I have, but I'll see if I can take some better ones. You're welcome to use any of my pictures.
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Yes, I do. I just now went in and tried a quick code change but failed. I will work on it more later.
Have you gone to www.tablesoccer.com?
I wish everyone would write to Dennis Jiang, owner of the site and explain to him how that looks to you. Don't bother with the email address that is given on the site, it is DEAD. Don't bother calling either, it has been disconnected. Even "under construction" would be very helpful. At least people looking for more information will continue to look instead of seeing this and saying, "No way I am I going to waste my time with this fly-by-night manufacture".
It kills me to see it. It kills business.
foosball_site (at) yahoo (dot) com
Maybe YOU will get him to move forward on a World wide image.
Thanks,Brad "causing trouble" Laurine
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Brad's absolutely right about Dennis' site. It's badly designed, shady and doesn't work. Even Warriors' site is better, :o That site must go...Here we have a kick_@#$ table and sites like that will drive interested folks away. I was so hopeless about getting a Fireball till Brad came to the rescue.Also Fireball USA site is very appealing and simple and well designed.
The Multi-Player table is a great idea and very few players get the concept. As a hobby player and table collector I would still buy this. I can never be a die hard of any specific brand table, I love the game.
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Brad, I just spent about an hour scanning all the style sheets for the Fireball USA site and simply could not find where links were being styled to blue. I think the fix is to put in a style for a.toclink (table of content link) and style color to ANYTHING BUT BLUE, preferably NOT BLACK. It's probably just an oversight and simply never got styled. IN fact, now that I think about it, the default color for links (<a> elements) is blue, which shows up just fine on a white background. Simply add this to the style.css page in the style sheets folder
a.toclink{
color: #FFA854;
}
I picked that color from the existing style sheet. It's a yellowish-orange which is similar to the color of the large Fireball banner.
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Mr. Anderson,
Thank you for that help. I unfortunately have managed to lock myself out of the css page that was writeable. CRAP. I somehow blew it and will need to get back in and finish. Your Fireball balls are shipped to Foosball.com. They are expected to have the parts at the end of this week. Deb is fully aware of your need and she is ready to go as soon as the balls arrive.
Foosball.com and My site will be the parts supplier for Fireball. I am currently working on getting the site ready for a click and buy.
On to other things.
The Coin Op is playing awesome. So far a couple of things have come to light and are being addressed. I found a way to get free balls, so Dennis at Fireball has sent me 25 new pieces to defeat my criminal ways.
Changing the minds of Tornado players don't come easy. Last Wednesday night, we had several people from outside the area come and play in a tournament on the Fireball Coin Ops. New balls and new table... at first, I can't this, I can't that, this is bad, this is good, oh wait, did I just do that? After awhile, they were singing the praises after the night was done. The proof is not what they say to me but what they tell others. I know people are going to blow smoke up my bottom because they don't want to offend me or make me feel bad. Thank you for the respect.
On Thursday, the "other board" had a nice post in regards to what one of the players felt about the table. Today, one of the other players that came from, yet another city was all explaining to others how great the table played. Thank you for the positive reviews.
It is going to take time to get the player to see the difference without the negative vibe.
I am a player, I see that I stroke a faster, longer, squarer pull shot then I have ever done in my entire life. Do you think that is because I am getting younger and the steroids, growth hormones and the other banned substances are working? lol I think it is because the Fireball rods, bearing, man design and finally, what I know can be put to practice on this table.
Looking forward to more.
Brad Laurine
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Oops! All of my pictures have disappeared. Ironically, it looks like Foosball.com has restyled their page and in fact are using a similar color for their links that I suggested for Fireball.com.
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We did some upgrading today and had some issues, so it's possible we lost a few things... sorry about that. ::)
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It seems to have fixed itself. It's all good. I do a lot of web programming myself so I understand the issues that occur, especially while upgrading. I hope the upgrades will solve the issue of the robots signing on and spamming us every day. I don't envy your job.
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I have noticed that foosball websites are generally badly designed and broken often. For example, Charles Mackintosh's site is not great either.
I know that at the beginning when you start your business, it might be costly to set up a good site and infrastructure. However, I think Fireball is successfull enough now to afford to pay for a week's worth of a professional web developer's time to set up a nice Web 2.0 style info & purchase basket website. If you can't find or actually SEE (dark blue links on black background!) the info, it's quite likely the user would move on. There's numerous studies that tell you that an average person stays on a website for only a few seconds. If they hate it, they just move on.
Like you say, Brad, it impacts marketing of the table in a very negative way. The money you pay now on the website will easily double future Fireball sales!
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Correct on all accounts.
Now, please explain that to my left brain.
While you are in the mood, feel free to tell the owner of Fireball, Dennis Jiang at tablesoccer.com what you're thoughts are about his site. I will help you contact Dennis at; foosball_site@yahoo.com.
He will be happy to hear from everyone about the professionalism of his site and what it does for Fireball's collective image.
My site is currently being updated as we speak and I now have buttons to be able to purchase products. No, it is not completed but neither is my checkbook. As I putzed around trying to make those stinking links less stinking, I screwed up and can't unlock the css edit. Mr. Anderson was so nice in trying to help me with some code to add, I blew it.
Thank you for all the positive support and the feedback is great.
This new site of Foosball.com has been a long time coming and it is wonderful to see.
Brad Laurine
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New promo... (SFW, no rickroll)
http://youtu.be/Tsjj-_NB3es
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I hate to admit it but I remember watching that show ::) the original one that is,,, ;)
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Fireball tables in the Pacific Northwest.
In Portland, near Tigard, we have two of the newest Fireball Coin Op located in Bull Mountain Bar and Grill 13727 SW Pacific Hwy, Portland, OR
These two tables are the elite's tables dream. The fastest rods in the West, super thick walls and surface, rock solid feel and rods that don't bend. These are set on .75 play and is a split cabinet design.
Mike Holbert has been pumping up the Fireball since he received his first of 5 tables at Nike last year. Thursday night Tournament at Bull Mtn and Leagues for the amateurs on Tuesday. He is looking at Singles on Sunday and special events coming up, all on Fireball.
This Thursday, October 7 will have the regular DYP
This Saturday only, October 9th, I will run a DYP and a BYP together. We call it a Shack N' Bake tournament.
If you do not have a partner in advance or don't wish to hook up the night of the event, enter the DYP, If you wish to play as partners, then you enter the BYP
The event has both a DYP and a BYP bracket and they don't collide until playing for 4th or better on the losers side and for King seat on the winners.
1st
2nd
and 3rd places paid.
Unless 12 or more teams are registered, then 4th is paid!
Two DYP teams and Two BYP in the Semi-finals
FOUR FIREBALL TABLES AVAILABLE
Entry is ONLY $20 for the DYP TEAM
ONLY $30 for the BYP TEAM
Brad Laurine
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JULY 7th and 9th!
Damn, I was working on a project in October and guess what I put!
Sorry...
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Brad, we'll forgive the "mature moment" ;D But kudo's on the new coin-op. After playing the tournament this weekend, all I can say is, NICE, NICE, NICE! Like Will Smith said in the movie,"Independence Day" "I got to get me one of THESE!" That table is just too much fun and with time to explore all the possibilities it will only be more fun. I want one. I'm gonna sell that Texan table and get me one I can let it all hang out on, just saying, that table is the bomb!