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Title: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 13, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
I may be selling my Leonhart Pro non coin and now an ITSF offical table .This table was imported from Germany this year....It's in Perfect Shape...Reason? I'm thinking about purchasing an Ullrich P4P... The Table's in Los Angeles Area. I just want to get an idea first. Light System will not be included.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h431/Goatseelord/FoosLab/DSC00300.jpg

Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: PatRyan on October 13, 2011, 01:37:17 PM
Probably the only Leonhart table in the USA.  How much are you looking to get for it?

Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 13, 2011, 01:52:41 PM
Hi Pat

The USA team can really use this...I can't discuss price here but, it cost me above $2000 I'll shoot you a message on how much I'm asking for....
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 13, 2011, 06:23:52 PM
Reason? I'm thinking about purchasing an Ullrich P4P...
That's cool. But what do you want with a P4P table? They're not used anywhere in the US, are they?

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Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 13, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
I don't play tournaments, but I love the experience of playing on different styles of quality tables(from different parts of the world) for fun, so do my friends. I had some Tornado players come over and they just couldn't believe how cool it was to play on this Leonhart table...
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 14, 2011, 04:59:15 AM
I suppose you're gonna absolutely love the Ullrich P4P, then. Great table!

And if you have the money, this might be something for you:

P4P German Championship Announcement (pdf document) (http://www.players4players.de/fileadmin/turniere/2011/dm2011_de.pdf)

Anmeldeschluss = registration deadline
Startgeld = entry fee
Freitag = Friday
Samstag = Saturday
Sonntag = Sunday

Doppel = Doubles
Einzel = Singles
Neulinge = Rookies
Amateur = Semi-Pro
Master = Pro
Elite = Pro Master
Damen = Women
Offen(es) = open
Pokal = Cup/trophy
Jacke = jacket

Gewinnerrunde = Winners' Bracket
Verliererunde = Losers' Bracket
2 bis 5 = best of 3 games to 5 points
3 bis 5 = best of 5 games to 5 points
1 bis 7 = one game to 7

Rules in English (http://www.players4players.de/fileadmin/files-misc/P4P_Spielregeln_V3f_en.pdf)

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Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 14, 2011, 11:54:50 AM
I would love to, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now. Thank you so much for the link...I hope some day I go to Berlin or Hamburg and play with some folks in the bars...
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 15, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Come to Cologne! You'll love it!
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 15, 2011, 10:00:16 PM
Would love to visit Cologne also...Trying to send you PM but your inbox is full, send  me PM with your email...
I have some questions about the Ullrich P4P table....
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: gitablok on October 18, 2011, 01:13:17 PM
Well considering you have a fireball logo Foozul..... guess who redesigned the new table for P4P.. I'll give you one guess :)
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 18, 2011, 01:33:34 PM
Fireball did,I think, the main similarity are the bearings, balanced men and shorter rods...Ullrich also kept some of the old Lehmacher P4P look...The Ullrich P4P table's made in Germany also.
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 18, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
I don't think anyone at Fireball was actively involved in designing the new P4P table. When Fireball was new on the market, Ullrich helped them with the developing costs and some logistic aspects, but that's about as far as their connection goes. I guess they do know pretty well which assemblies Fireball will be using at any given time, and they might profit from that knowledge, but that's speculation. According to the company's official statements, the Ullrich P4P was 100% developed and is 100% manufactured in Germany.

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Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 20, 2011, 02:12:56 PM
Well, looks like no real takers in US....It's too bad since this table will put any old TS table to shame...I think of all people Tony Spredeman may get this.
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: alaris on October 21, 2011, 04:44:35 PM
Good, I hope Tony does :)
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: schanbachler on October 22, 2011, 10:45:54 AM
they make lighting systems for foosball? i've never heard of these brand tables they must be very expensive if imported huh?
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 22, 2011, 10:53:36 AM
Yes, it was expensive, but so worth it. Everyone loves playing on this table. Even the lighting system is from Germany besides the fixture. Leonhart is the the brand for German tables in the international competitions...

http://web.original-leonhart.com/en/products/leopro-tables/leoprofessional
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 23, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
A very good table is the Leo Soccer 2011 (http://web.original-leonhart.com/en/products/leosoccer/leosoccertournament). Its cost-performance ratio is unrivaled. Would be a good choice for every one who wants a German table without spending a fortune.

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Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 24, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
Here are some new photos of the Leo Table...

http://s1109.photobucket.com/albums/h431/Goatseelord/LEO_TOURNAMENT/
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: foozkillah on October 24, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
A very good table is the Leo Soccer 2011 (http://web.original-leonhart.com/en/products/leosoccer/leosoccertournament). Its cost-performance ratio is unrivaled. Would be a good choice for every one who wants a German table without spending a fortune..
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W-w-w-wait a minute... TBG....  Fireball's a German table from scratch n from the getgo ... $1099 for brand-spanking-new... that's no fortune.. altho, used ones would be impossible to find, prolly..
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: FOOZUL on October 24, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
Fireball got developed in Germany and perfected in the US(thx to Mr. Laurine), but it's not pure German style table. It's a hybrid table, Tornado meets P4P kind of a deal...
Title: Re: GERMAN ITSF TABLE MIGHT BE UP FOR SALE
Post by: thebodygroove on October 26, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
Killah, of course you're right. If it comes to Foosball tables in general, there's no better cost-performance ratio than the Fireball's. I was referring to German-style tables (modern TS rip offs).