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Offline marty

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whats a forword shoot out
« on: June 03, 2008, 09:59:44 AM »
hi there just wondering whats the rules for a forword shoot out

Offline Joel

Re: whats a forword shoot out
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 04:50:17 PM »
From http://www.minnesotafoosball.com/rules.aspx:
Forward Shootout a singles specialty event where the players alternately shoot technical foul shots on each other.

The Serve
The ball is placed on the three-man, and then must touch two men and be stopped for a full second before a shot may be attempted. Violation is loss of possession.
The first serve of the match is determined in the usual fashion, by a flip of the coin.
The serve alternates between players for the remainder of the match.

Shooting
The ball is considered to have been shot once it leaves the forward's three man. The ball is considered to have been blocked once the ball has either stopped in or left the defender's area.

Time Limits
The usual time limit (15 seconds) applies on the three-man. Time limits start one second after the ball has touched the second man.

You are allowed two time outs per game.

Offline marty

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Re: whats a forword shoot out
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 09:16:52 PM »
thanks joel , stoped a full second before a shot attempt. well that rules out my tic tac rolling push kick , our does it mean touch 2 men
then stop 1 second then tic tac push kick   ( wap )    score

Offline Joel

Re: whats a forword shoot out
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2008, 03:01:02 PM »
After it touches 2 men and is stoppped for 1 second, you can do your tic tac push kick :)

Offline foozkillah

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Re: whats a forword shoot out
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2008, 07:11:06 PM »
After it touches 2 men and is stoppped for 1 second, you can do your tic tac push kick :)

Well wait a minute!  Doesn't the serve, putting the ball in play at the beginning of a point follow the new ITSF/USTSF rules?  I thought it followed the same procedure:

1. Forward places the ball in the 3bar area:
2. Forward employs the "Ready Protocol" before moving the ball, asking the Goalkeeper if he/she is ready, and the Goalkeeper must respond immediately when ready for continuous play, AUDIBLY, or possibly be called for delay of game.
3. Forward must then touch the ball, whether moving the ball or not, with a first and then a second player, whereupon the 15 second clock goes into effect and starts running.
4. Upon the 2nd player touching the ball, the Forward cannot allow the ball to leave the 3bar area for a full second, backwards or forwards, as in a rare reverse rear-bank shot.

So what the heck is this 1 second stop?  Isn't that obsolete?  Not to mention unfair to Euro or South American or Canadian or Asian players who have agreed to the 1 second hiatus on release only?
Is someone using a 24 second timeclock for Olympic Basketball games when the the US is playing?

I've seen the Ready Protocol and 1 second before release in Goalie Wars.. I know that FSO is a specialty event. but does that give it special serving rules?