the stick pass is what im talking about.....I can brush pass, but my consistancy isnt as good as the stick. I am finding it harder to complete passesa as of late, but I play against the same people so I need to up my artillery and add new things every so often.. I've only been playing for about a year and a half but have my own table and practice religiously....Where I live(orlando) the big tournament is held oe day a week. The foosball scene here sucks....I don't play there due to some problems ive had with the older players.. They are the most unwelcoming players ive ever met...I have to say there is only a few guys that have been great and teach..but for the most part the sighs and looks they give to younger players when something doesn't go right is the most dick head thing ive ever seen....There are no rookies that play in the league..Im 27 years old and the youngest player that played there in years....Even a lot of the older guys only show up every now and then and they will tell you the same thing...Luckily ive ound a bar that has an old brown side that we fixed up ad host tournaments at....We have about 8 beginners and 3 or 4 rooks and semi pros....Boy I got off topic..I am moving to austin texas in august and can't wait