Topic: Single Man Goalie?

[chance37]

so what do you guys think realistically the chances they go to a one man goalie....Reading the other board about Eds mods to the men and several on there think that brunswick will never put up the cash to make new molds...hope thats not true because i think eds new idea is great....switching to a single goalie would require a new surface with ramped corners Id imagine the cost of that would mammoth the changing of the men?  IS brunswick just talking big about changing the men or do they really care?  As far as the goalie I could care less if it changes...

[Rios]

I am not a fan of the one man goalies... i like the use of the guys in back to help set up my shot from the 2bar, plus you are able to pass with them.

However, I have also heard that they are thinking about it due to all of the Euro tables have 1 man goalies, except like one table...

[chance37]

i agree. setting the ball up is a good thing about the 3/

[Daniel]

I added this question to the poll section so go vote and lets see what people think.

http://www.foosball.com/forum/index.php?topic=1569.0

[TSR_Brad]

I tried out the one-man goalie Tornado when I was in Italy. I thought they did a great job incorporating the differences from the norm and I thought it played fine. Doubtful you'll see any in the US, though.

People have to get past their table biases. If someone asked me what kind of table to get if they want to be a great player, my answer would be... As many different ones as you can get!

Limiting yourself to one kind of table, you're limiting your skills.

[bbtuna]

Brad, well said

both 3 and 1 man goalies have advantages

I like playing on the Tornado as it is, but you get ALOT more slop with the 2 wing men...not even close...I used to argue about this but I have watched this closley since then and have played on a one man goalie since then and it isn't even close

i am not arguing for one or the other, I can live with either and Brad is right, learn to play all kinds of tables, that is what makes a person a great fooser now...as Frico

[Gstillwellar]

I'M OK WITH IT. My question is how long did they increase the Goalie Rod to make it work like it's shown..

[chance37]

i believe the corners are ramped slightly which is nice too much of a ramp and its a pain in the ass to set up pulls....i dont think you have to make the road any longer

[redterror]

um I'll stck to 3 men goalies as I like to shoot from the outer man.

[EDGEER]

The 3 man goalie was born of necessity and economics.  It makes the game eaisier for the beginner to learn and it lowers the cost of production.  With all that said Farid Lounas of the ITSF hates the 3-man goal and has told me in person that a 1 man goalie will be required sometime in the future for ITSF recognition. Lounas thinks the 3-man goal goes against the standardization of foosball tables and therefore bad for the sport.   

The 3-man goalie is my only contribution to what I beleave is the betterment of foosball.  But if having a 3-man goalie rod hampers Foosball's recognition as a sport by the International Olympic Committee,  I say put those extra guys on waivers.

Ed Geer

[EDGEER]

P.S. If someone would be kind enough to post this for me on the Foosballboard.com forum I would be grateful.

[Gstillwellar]

....i dont think you have to make the road any longer

When looking at the table it doesn't seem like you can push the Single Goalie man far enough over, to get the ball when its way on the other side of the HOLE. As it looks now in the picture, the Handle would clearly bump up against the near wall Table Side, before the man gets to the other side of the Hole, as you push the rod towards the far wall. I dont see a ramp at all. Maybe the Ramp or slant will be there; But if not, I think the man needs to go a little further over to prevent too many dead spots. Regardless, I like the Single Goalie and 4 Less men per table, means a little less set up Time. I remember it being easy to set the Ball up, by using the back wall as a bouncing board.

70's Tornado Single Goalie Man Table belowhttp://www.yourwebpress.com/sites/employees/gstillwell/files/NEAFOOS//Tornado1970.jpg

[TSR_Brad]

On the goalie rod, the men are replaced by stops. The goalie covers the same amount of area in front of the goal... The corners are very mildly sloped... Dead spots aren't really any larger than before.

I think people are way over-analyzing the situation. Tornado trails the pack in Europe, even though if you ask most of the European players they'll tell you how good of a table it is. This is a no-brainer for Brunswick. Table sales, people... it's all about table sales.

For the conspiracy theorists out there, I really doubt this is a further attempt to undermine American foosball. I think it's simply an attempt to increase market share.

[Gstillwellar]

I think it's simply an attempt to increase market share.

BULLS EYE  Well Said Brad
Plus - "IMO"  Protecting exisiting market share to retain the current market, usually is an important 1st step towards increasing market share. If you loose existing base to more competitors (we are now seeing more competition in USA and overseas ) the new sales gained might not be enough to increase overall market share.  Oh well Change is here and it's exciting, just wish I had more time, energy, and extra money to blow playing all over the country again, Knocking the rust off. MY how priorities CHANGE with CHANGE.. I think most players like all tables regardless of the number of men, *IF the tables are in the manufacturer's top condition* when people play on them. Some tables are built differently and just have to be maintain more often than others.  It's hard to find one table I couldn't have some type of fun on.

[Old Meister]

This is "table soccer" and soccer has only one goalie.