Topic: HOFC Summary

[bbtuna]

Hope to hear detail about the prototype tables from someone there but here are a couple of my observations from the results

* Rico Tripled...again - he is the most amazing story ever in foosball in my opinion
* I hear Todd Played forward
* Tommy A seems to continue to improve
* The same 15-20 players in Open are at the top as always with the exception of
* Ryan Moore who continues to push to the top of the top and Hagerman and Harrington who seem to be on their way into the fresh pro-master ranks

E. Cervantes is pushing in Semi-pro I look forward to watching him move up
and, I think one of the best and most compelling stories of the tournament is...

Rick Martin
1st Pro Doubles
1st Semi-Pro Doubles
1st No-Pro DYP
1st place No-Pro Mixed
4th Semi-Pro Singles

[TSR_Brad]

Las Vegas is a poop-hole. That is my summary.

[bbtuna]

do you mean the hotel, the tournament, or the whole city

do you think it would be better in a nicer hotel

[TSR_Brad]

do you mean the hotel, the tournament, or the whole city

Yes, yes and yes.

[Daniel]

I was there and it was very cool.  It was a lame turn out and only had 78 tables setup.  My brother in-law liked the proto type foosers and said it was fun hitting banks shots and was even able to hit a double bank from the back.  As for Rick Martin I played him in Semi-pro singles and he kicked my ass.  That was one nasty push kick with lots of options.  As for Zeke Cervantes this has to be his last chance to win a Semi-pro event before he goes pro hope he does it at worlds this year.

[EDGEER]

Now Brad.  I had a very nice room to stay in.  It had marble floors, a shower, a whirlpool bath, walk-in closet, living room, couch and loveset with recliner, formal dinning room table and 2 toilets.  It cost me less than a $100 a night.  How can that be considered a dump. 

[TSR_Brad]

Vegas is awful. Hence, anything contained within its limits (including any hotels, or tournaments hosted by said hotels) is by default a poop-hole. And my room cost way less than yours.

[bbtuna]

Brad,

I thought you were a Tornado homer and here you are baggin on your boys...

so it sounds like you are saying that don't like Vegas and no Tournament held in Vegas by anyone at any location will meet your approval...basically, sin city is not your bag, not your cup of tea, not your order of nachos

I am very disappointed, I expect a more balanced, objective, politically correct opinion from a professional sports broadcaster 

[TSR_Brad]

I'm not a homer for anyone. I'm a foosball fan.

I'm in a bit of a pissy mood this morning (sitting in McCarren waiting for my delayed flight) so I'll reserve making too many comments.

I will say that there needs to be serious changes in our game otherwise I don't see a bright future. The HoFC used to draw three times as many players, outdrawing Worlds. Don't believe the crap about no player base in Las Vegas. The Maloney Effect was still evident thru the course of the tournament. Treat your customers like crap, they'll stop buying.

It's easy to become cynical when you see your passion die of neglect.

One more thing... Actually go to tournaments before doing all the armchair quarterbacking. I've been to a lot of tournaments in last couple of years and I've watched it wither. I've literally had a ringside seat.

[bbtuna]

Your vantage point brings more negativeness to the situation, texture to the pain, and it opens wounds I have not and hope not to experience

But, i don't have to go to the tournaments to see and feel the effects of the decline of foosball in the US, it is not only at large regional’s or “tour” stop tournaments it is at the local scene and it is with table changes that trickle down to my table

it impacts the bar game…how many places you can find a table, the condition of the tables, the type and number of people who play

for 3 years I have been on both boards reading nearly every post, every day, written on every subject, I can hear the frustration, the anger, the bitterness

I want it to be different too, yours are not the only one’s who have been crushed

[Gstillwellar]

TRUE........

Brad, What changes do you think need to happen?

It's easy to become cynical when you see your passion die of neglect....I will say that there needs to be serious changes in our game otherwise I don't see a bright future. The HoFC used to draw three times as many players, outdrawing Worlds.

[TSR_Brad]

Forgive me if I game off harsh yesterday. Lack of sleep will do that to a person. I don't have time to write everything that I'd like to... most probably wouldn't like what I have to say.

Charles... You can only form a partial picture of the situation if you're not present to see how things really are. I would estimate that maybe half of what you'll read on all the boards and forums is based in actual fact. Much of it is hearsay or flat out guesswork. Do I know everything that's going on in the game? No, but I stay informed enough to have a little more accurate picture than most of the internet experts.

So.... 1) Who's to blame for our current state of affairs and 2) what can be done to change things? My very brief answers to both questions; 1) All parties involved bear a share of the responsibility. 2) Many things but first and foremost is a change in attitude by all parties involved. I guess I need to include myself in that last one too. 

I may feel like expounding on things later but I'm in recovery mode and my brain is still on Vegas time.

BA

[bbtuna]

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[TSR_Brad]

Wow... now who's in a pissy mood?

I don't think I ever said other people's opinions weren't valid. But what is an opinion worth if it's formed by incomplete or erroneous information? And who's pulling an "education club" as you like to call it? I think I'd be more in the "intellect club" because I try to allow my opinions to be formed based on FACTS and DIRECT OBSERVATION instead of basing them on things I read on the internet. How's that for logic?

That's all I've got. I'll shut up now.

[bbtuna]

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