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Charles, if I get to visit him at his house I will take along a warrior ball, or if he meets me somewhere I will pass one along, that might help him with his transition. After he gets some confidence with that, he will probably be closer to mastering the tornado ball. We'll see.frt2599:You GOTTA pm me with that guys name and number if possible that sold y'all the tables! That was the area I grew up in and my old stomping grounds until about 10 years ago. If he grew up there then he either went to Hazelwood West or McCluer North. If he played at all in the local bars, I should know him. Please pm me with that info, I'd like to give him a call and see if he was one of my old buds. I'll bet I can get him back into the game, even if just for "King of the Table" like we used to do in the bars.